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  Cancer has been with us for a long time

  by Coded Logic in

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  a 2 million year old hominid has been discovered that had cancer in its foot - making it the oldest neoplasia found in the human lineage.

  now, as to why cancer predates original sin by nearly 2 million years, i'd love to hear christian apologists try and explain.. http://sajs.co.za/osteogenic-tumour-australopithecus-sediba-earliest-hominin-evidence-neoplastic-disease/patrick-s-randolph-quinney-scott-williams-maryna-steyn-marc-r-meyer-jacqueline-s-smilg-steven-e.

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  Your question about the evolution of cancer is possibly the dumbest thing I have read on JWN since you accused scientists of being disciples of Dagon.

  I find it interesting that you ridicule above notion. You are actually ridiculing the following scientist:
  

  Therein lies a tantalizing mystery: In the time since that nameless unlucky soul got bone cancer, massive evolutionary changes have occurred. Things changed. Humans changed. Why didn't the cancer?
  

  Scientists don't have the answer. "What we do have is that these types of cancers existed so many years ago, and we are seeing the same thing today." Odes said. "Normally, in an evolutionary biological situation, you'd see change." 1

  1. Scientists find cancer in million-year-old fossil by AJ Willingham, CNN.

  Are you talking about the sesamoid bones? Big difference between simian and human? And not something that will change without the help of the genetic engineers.

  Sorry, you are forcing me to quote myself. Are you referring to the sesamoid bones?
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  Cancer has been with us for a long time

  by Coded Logic in

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  a 2 million year old hominid has been discovered that had cancer in its foot - making it the oldest neoplasia found in the human lineage.

  now, as to why cancer predates original sin by nearly 2 million years, i'd love to hear christian apologists try and explain.. http://sajs.co.za/osteogenic-tumour-australopithecus-sediba-earliest-hominin-evidence-neoplastic-disease/patrick-s-randolph-quinney-scott-williams-maryna-steyn-marc-r-meyer-jacqueline-s-smilg-steven-e.

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  WhatshallIcallmyself, I've been wondering the same thing. Isn't evolutionary change part and parcel of the evolution theory? Why would some life forms change and others stay the same for millions of years? That is the question.
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  Cancer has been with us for a long time

  by Coded Logic in

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  a 2 million year old hominid has been discovered that had cancer in its foot - making it the oldest neoplasia found in the human lineage.

  now, as to why cancer predates original sin by nearly 2 million years, i'd love to hear christian apologists try and explain.. http://sajs.co.za/osteogenic-tumour-australopithecus-sediba-earliest-hominin-evidence-neoplastic-disease/patrick-s-randolph-quinney-scott-williams-maryna-steyn-marc-r-meyer-jacqueline-s-smilg-steven-e.

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  Are you talking about the sesamoid bones? Big difference between simian and human? And not something that will change without the help of the genetic engineers.
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  Cancer has been with us for a long time

  by Coded Logic in

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  a 2 million year old hominid has been discovered that had cancer in its foot - making it the oldest neoplasia found in the human lineage.

  now, as to why cancer predates original sin by nearly 2 million years, i'd love to hear christian apologists try and explain.. http://sajs.co.za/osteogenic-tumour-australopithecus-sediba-earliest-hominin-evidence-neoplastic-disease/patrick-s-randolph-quinney-scott-williams-maryna-steyn-marc-r-meyer-jacqueline-s-smilg-steven-e.

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  Another thing, the cancerous growth in the bone is identical with those of today. According to the evolutionary theory, the simian changed and became human. Why did the cancer stay the same? The same goes for horseshoe crabs and the coelacanth. These also stayed the same for millions of years. They are called living fossils. No evolutionary change there, I'm afraid.
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  Cancer has been with us for a long time

  by Coded Logic in

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  a 2 million year old hominid has been discovered that had cancer in its foot - making it the oldest neoplasia found in the human lineage.

  now, as to why cancer predates original sin by nearly 2 million years, i'd love to hear christian apologists try and explain.. http://sajs.co.za/osteogenic-tumour-australopithecus-sediba-earliest-hominin-evidence-neoplastic-disease/patrick-s-randolph-quinney-scott-williams-maryna-steyn-marc-r-meyer-jacqueline-s-smilg-steven-e.

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  LoveUniHateExams said:
  

  We are the only living species in this family that walks upright.

  That's an important point, don't you think? Now, the difference between the human and primate knee is as important. That's one of the reasons why they are classified as they are. And that's the way it's going to stay, even for a million years. Or are we talking "Planet of the Apes" here? Only in Hollywood Cofty, only in Hollywood. By the way, I know of a lizard that can walk upright. It proves absolutely nothing.
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  Cancer has been with us for a long time

  by Coded Logic in

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  a 2 million year old hominid has been discovered that had cancer in its foot - making it the oldest neoplasia found in the human lineage.

  now, as to why cancer predates original sin by nearly 2 million years, i'd love to hear christian apologists try and explain.. http://sajs.co.za/osteogenic-tumour-australopithecus-sediba-earliest-hominin-evidence-neoplastic-disease/patrick-s-randolph-quinney-scott-williams-maryna-steyn-marc-r-meyer-jacqueline-s-smilg-steven-e.

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  Thanks LoveUniHateExams. That's the point I am trying to make. Walking upright doesn't prove anything.
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  Cancer has been with us for a long time

  by Coded Logic in

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  a 2 million year old hominid has been discovered that had cancer in its foot - making it the oldest neoplasia found in the human lineage.

  now, as to why cancer predates original sin by nearly 2 million years, i'd love to hear christian apologists try and explain.. http://sajs.co.za/osteogenic-tumour-australopithecus-sediba-earliest-hominin-evidence-neoplastic-disease/patrick-s-randolph-quinney-scott-williams-maryna-steyn-marc-r-meyer-jacqueline-s-smilg-steven-e.

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  Yes, Cofty, emphasis here on pre-human. That's why they are referred to as apes and not humans. The fact they they walked upright has nothing to do with the price of eggs. Some apes do that.
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  Cancer has been with us for a long time

  by Coded Logic in

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  a 2 million year old hominid has been discovered that had cancer in its foot - making it the oldest neoplasia found in the human lineage.

  now, as to why cancer predates original sin by nearly 2 million years, i'd love to hear christian apologists try and explain.. http://sajs.co.za/osteogenic-tumour-australopithecus-sediba-earliest-hominin-evidence-neoplastic-disease/patrick-s-randolph-quinney-scott-williams-maryna-steyn-marc-r-meyer-jacqueline-s-smilg-steven-e.

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  Coded Logic, take note, according to Wiki Australopithecus sediba is classified as a primate which may have lived in savannas, eating fruit and other foods from the forest—behavior similar to modern-day savanna chimpanzees, thus non-human.
  
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  That Most Uneven of Judicial Procedures~The Gradual Lifting of Restriction After Reinstatement

  by TMS in

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  those with substantial experience as jws will likely agree that judicial matters are handled with considerable inconsistency.

  elders certainly vary in skill level, understanding, compassion or even knowledge of the talmudlike watchtower rules.

  the punishment and, it is actually punishment, for similar offenses can result in anything from private or public reproof to disfellowshipping or sometimes an elder will choose to simply offer private counsel without even bringing the matter before the body of elders.

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  On the subject, I know of a sister that applied for reinstatement. The elders told her: "Don't call us, we'll call you." So they will decide whether the person has repented enough. They will decide whether the heart condition of a person has improved to such an extent that he/she can be reinstated. Methinks they have taken over Jesus' role as judge. Now that's presumptuous. What idiots!
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  Speculation about GT

  by aintenoughwiskey in

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  what were/are your speculations about the great tribulation.

  unless those days were cut short no flesh would be saved?.

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  Vidqun

  I believe for God to be fair there must be a literal fulfillment of Rev. 11. When the two witness-prophets appear on the scene, they will make things clear. Their ministry will last 3 1/2 years, long enough for all to make up their minds as to which way they want to go.