Not sure this is a general lie or one that's only prevalent in our area. In my case, they keep on telling family and friends: "It was Viqun's choice to being disfellowshipped." As far as I know, the decision to disfellowship is in the hands of the three elders involved in the judicial committee, never the accused. Not that I ever want to go back, but it really irritates me when I hear this.
Posts by Vidqun
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90What is Your Favorite WT Lie?
by Sea Breeze ini would like to start a thread on lies that the watchtower and their reps have told.
surely we all have one or two that truly sticks out in our memories, no matter how much we would like to forget.
my favorite wt lie: the reason they don't want to release the name of the "scholars" who worked on the new world translation is because they do not want to accept "glory and honor" from others.
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Biden calls Trump supporters garbage
by moomanchu ina comedian in a comedy sketch at a trunp rally joked that the island of puerto rico is a floating island of garbage.. what to do???
potus pappy joe to the rescue!!
he sounds the alarm, comes out swinging and calls trump supporters, actual people, garbage.. .
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Vidqun
Question is: Who facts check the fact checkers?
MBFC: Dave M. Van Zandt obtained a Communications Degree before pursuing a higher degree in the sciences. Dave currently works full time in the health care industry.
Similar to Reuters, absolutely 100% neutral as to matters related to mRNA gene therapy. Wonder what Dave boy has to say about it. So I checked. Lot of conspiracy-pseudoscience on his website. The guy's an expert. Very reliable. Tells me one thing. Sponsored by Pfizer.
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Biden calls Trump supporters garbage
by moomanchu ina comedian in a comedy sketch at a trunp rally joked that the island of puerto rico is a floating island of garbage.. what to do???
potus pappy joe to the rescue!!
he sounds the alarm, comes out swinging and calls trump supporters, actual people, garbage.. .
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Vidqun
"White House press officials altered the official transcript, overriding official stenographers who objected to the alterations." The apostrophe came later.
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Biden calls Trump supporters garbage
by moomanchu ina comedian in a comedy sketch at a trunp rally joked that the island of puerto rico is a floating island of garbage.. what to do???
potus pappy joe to the rescue!!
he sounds the alarm, comes out swinging and calls trump supporters, actual people, garbage.. .
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Vidqun
And here's a follow-up article. MSM and Dems melting down. Now that's funny:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/msm-melts-down-over-trump-garbage-truck-stunt
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Biden calls Trump supporters garbage
by moomanchu ina comedian in a comedy sketch at a trunp rally joked that the island of puerto rico is a floating island of garbage.. what to do???
potus pappy joe to the rescue!!
he sounds the alarm, comes out swinging and calls trump supporters, actual people, garbage.. .
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Vidqun
To rip Biden and Kamala off, Trump holds press conference in a garbage truck on his way to Green Bay Rally:
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-calls-80-million-americans-human-garbage-after-comedian-sparks-mass-triggering
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Why did God give the Ministry of Reconciliation (Justification) to the apostles instead of the Kingdom message?
by Sea Breeze inwhy did god give the ministry of reconciliation (justification) to the apostles when starting churches rather that the kingdom message in matt.
24: 14 that jesus spoke about?
2 cor.
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Vidqun
I have a different theory, one that the Witnesses will hate. Perhaps Matt. 24:14 and Mark 13:10 are not fulfilled as yet. These point to a future fulfillment:
Matthew (24:3) speaks of “end” as συντέλεια (τοῦ) αἰῶνος the end of the (present; αἰών) age = a combined end, a point of time marking completion of a duration, orig. ‘community contribution’ [the basic semantic component relates to something complementing something already present] in our literature only in a temporal sense and in v. 14 τέλος = the last part of a process: “This good news of the kingdom will be proclaimed in all the world as a testimony to all nations. And then the end will come.” The proclamation of the kingdom is therefore to start on the eve of the Tribulation. The preaching campaign is one of a kind, not to be repeated (cf. Matt. 24:14, 21 CSB). See BDAG.
Mark (13:10) is even more specific: “Also, in all the nations the good news has to be preached first.” πρῶτος = pertaining to being first in a sequence as to time, set (number) or space (BDAG), in the sense of a precondition in the Synoptic eschatological discourse (EDNT). The preaching of the gospel is a precondition and should therefore commence before the Tribulation takes hold. It is not to be repeated (cf. Mark 13:10, 19). See also unique use of πρῶτον in connection with “judgment” in 1 Pet. 4:17.
In my view Acts 2:16-21 was only partially fulfilled during the first century. This also points to a future fulfillment.
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2024 Annual Meeting Doctrinal Change
by Listener ina change to their doctrine came from jackson.
this isn't a transcript of his whole speech but i thought i would try and get some of his main speech in writing.. at around 1hr26 minutes he starts talking about some dangerous thinking in feeling there is some wiggle room in regards to the schedule for the gt.
but you see, we need to be careful about what we are thinking about the number of anointed ones left on earth.
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Vidqun
Duran, you've got some serious mixing and matching going on there:
"All needed nations will give their power to the UN when the time comes [Rev. 17:12]. This is necessary in order to bring about the 8th and final king that is used by God to serve as the 'hour of test'/hour of judgment'/'judgment on the house of God' [1 Peter 4:17; Rev. 3:10; 17:11, 12]. This 'hour' is the 42-month period of GT [Rev. 13:5; 17:11]. It is only GT for those that are refusing to go along with the rule of the UN. Prior to the UN getting the power to become the 8th king, WW3 must occur, it is the death-stroke on the beast as the 7th king [13:3]. The beast being revived is when it becomes the 8th king. [13:3; 17:11]"
Few problems here:
1) Remember beast with deathstroke only had ruling authority 42 months. Beast from the earth would take its place: "He exercised all the ruling authority of the first beast on his behalf" (Rev. 13:12). "The second beast was empowered to give life to the image of the first beast" (Rev. 13:15 NET). First beast is no more. Beast from the earth brought to life a new beast.
2) One hour is not equal to 42 months (3 1/2 years). (11:13; 17:12; 18:10, 17, 19; cf. 8:1).
3) I'd say we are now at Rev. 6:8. Next is Rev. 6:12 (sixth seal).
4) "He also caused everyone... to obtain a mark on their right hand or on their forehead" (Rev. 13:16 NET). Seems like the worship-part is the deadly part (13:15; 14:11; 19:20; 20:4).
5) Hour of test: First century Philadelphian congregation (3:10; cf. 1:11, 19; 4:1).
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Annual Meeting live updates
by ukpimo ini have obtained the live link for the annual meeting tomorrow:.
annual meeting live link.
the meeting will begin at 9:45am eastern time, for those of us in the uk, that will be 2:45pm.
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Vidqun
Duran, I do not see WW III in prophecy. I do see a lot of natural catastrophes and celestial phenomena in the pipeline. Perhaps these will herd the nations into the camp of the UN. Under such circumstances a central authority to keep law and order and to organize relief efforts and distribute relief supplies would make sense. Not that conventional war could be ruled out. Jesus did prophesy about wars and reports of wars.
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What evidence is there for a biblical jesus?
by Touchofgrey inis there any independently verified evidence that a miracle worker called jesus existed and did the things that the bible said he did?.
the four gospels were written by unknown authors many decades after the so called events, so can't be considered as eyewitness accounts.
i think that there may have been a apocalyptic preacher who was executed by the romans and the story evolved from their.
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Vidqun
Touchofgrey, what you are actually doing is establishing boundaries and rules for God. He used men to write down what is necessary under the guidance of His spirit. If you follow the scriptures you will see there is actually no contradictions. We either do not have all the facts or it's our because of our perceptive shortcomings. As a whole the scriptures is in harmony and furnish with what we need for the moment. This will become clear as we see the storm clouds over this world gathering. If you reject the scriptures it will be to your detriment.
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What evidence is there for a biblical jesus?
by Touchofgrey inis there any independently verified evidence that a miracle worker called jesus existed and did the things that the bible said he did?.
the four gospels were written by unknown authors many decades after the so called events, so can't be considered as eyewitness accounts.
i think that there may have been a apocalyptic preacher who was executed by the romans and the story evolved from their.
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Vidqun
Touchofgrey, whenever there's various eyewitness, there will invariably be differences and contradictions. No two people see the same event in the same way. So the few contradictions are easily explained by differences in background, personality, circumstance, writing style and time passed since it was documented.
Albert Huck's "Synopsis of the First Three Gospels with the addition of the Johannine Parallels," edited by Heinrich Greeven, is a valuable resource for study in this regard. I have the 13th edition. As far as I can remember, Kurt Aland also published a synopsis of the four gospels. There are differences, and that is to be expected.
E.g., "in the healing of the blind man (men?) near Jericho, Luke states it took place as Jesus “drew near to Jericho” (Luke 18:35). Matthew attests it happened after Jesus leaves Jericho and there were two blind men healed (Matt. 9:27). Mark narrates both the entrance and exit of Jesus from Jericho; and while leaving Jesus encounters and heals blind Bartimaeus (Mark 10:46)." Questions that come up: How many blind men did Jesus heal on that day? Was he coming or going or both? Did the writer(s) witness the occasion or was it narrated to them?