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  For those that read the bible, does the true message of scripture still come through in NWT?

  by NikL in

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  my active and in jw wife is up for reading bible together.

  thing is she wants to use nwt.. i have problems with that translation as you my imagine.. just wondering if you thought the true message of the bible will shine through the deliberate tampering of the nwt?.

  i know many people here don't like or want to read the bible and think it's rubbish anyway, so if that's you, you can save your comments :-).

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  Carol1111

  I have found e-sword very useful.

  It gives the meaning of the words taken from the original language, and several versions of the Bible.

  Or get a copy of Strong's concordance.
  
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  Who is Gog/Magog?

  by Cold Steel in

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  ezekiel spends two chapters (38-39) describing a war that either will never take place, or which has yet to take place.

  according to the prophecy, the warlord gog, of magog, will 1) sweep down on israel, covering the land like a cloud.

  this will happen in 2) the latter years when israel will 3) be a people “gathered out of many nations” and peoples.

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  Magog, Meshech and Tubal were all sons of Japheth in Genesis 10. The Ezekiel quote refers to their descendants.
  
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  Watchtower's Illogical Teachings

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  just writing down some notes to share with jws when i meet them.

  here are a few of the problems of logic i see in their doctrines.

  perhaps you can add to them.. systemic contradictions – jws boast about fighting for religious freedom – that is their freedom to share their differing views with people outside the organization - yet there is no freedom amongst members to disagree with any official teaching within the organization without the threat of losing friends and family.

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  They come to my door and say they have the truth but later on change their doctrine.

  If it was the truth the first time round, why change?

  It would be better to find the truth first and then tell me.
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  Watchtower's Illogical Teachings

  by Vanderhoven7 in

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  just writing down some notes to share with jws when i meet them.

  here are a few of the problems of logic i see in their doctrines.

  perhaps you can add to them.. systemic contradictions – jws boast about fighting for religious freedom – that is their freedom to share their differing views with people outside the organization - yet there is no freedom amongst members to disagree with any official teaching within the organization without the threat of losing friends and family.

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  They come to my door and try to dismantle mine. I look on it as a debate rather than an attack.
  
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  question from readers: with all the animal sacrifices, wouldnt the temple smell worse than a stockyard?

  by nowwhat? in

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  with all the cattle, sheep and others wouldn't they be shitting and peeing all over the place?

  along with the gallons and gallons of blood being drained and then the flesh being burned as well.

  wouldn't the stench be unbearable?.

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  I have often wondered about that.

  They did eat some of the sacrifices, so it might have been no worse than our abattoirs. They would not have wanted bulls running around in panic killing people so it would have had to be well organised and blood collected and disposed of rather than being on the ground and slipped on.

  No doubt there would have been smells and flies.
  
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  Why Jehovah's Witnesses are WRONG about Christmas

  by David_Jay in

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  as you know (and are probably tired of hearing me repeat), i’m jewish.

  yes, i was a jehovah’s witness when i was a teenager and into my 20s, but returned to my roots and now celebrate chanukah when the holiday season comes around each year.. so why am i writing about christmas?

  well, that’s because i thought i would share something about how jehovah’s witnesses teach against christmas.

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  I see it as a time to look after your health, have plenty of good food and keep warm at a cold and depressing time of year. The ancients who started this custom knew what they were doing.
  
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  devil question

  by Carol1111 in

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  i had a discussion with 4 jws today and they told me that jesus could not be tempted, ( they say that he would not be perfect if he could) but also they told me that satan tempted jesus in the wilderness.. can anyone clarify their beliefs please.

  i like to give them a reasoned argument when i talk to them, but have never noticed this conflict of ideas before..

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  How did Satan come to sin if he was created by God, and God's creation is perfect?

  They told me that Adam sinned because he was tempted by Satan, and he would not have sinned otherwise.

  None of it makes any sense. I can't understand why they can't see that.
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  devil question

  by Carol1111 in

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  i had a discussion with 4 jws today and they told me that jesus could not be tempted, ( they say that he would not be perfect if he could) but also they told me that satan tempted jesus in the wilderness.. can anyone clarify their beliefs please.

  i like to give them a reasoned argument when i talk to them, but have never noticed this conflict of ideas before..

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  I had a discussion with 4 JWs today and they told me that Jesus could not be tempted, ( they say that he would not be perfect if he could) but also they told me that Satan tempted Jesus in the wilderness.

  Can anyone clarify their beliefs please. I like to give them a reasoned argument when I talk to them, but have never noticed this conflict of ideas before.
  
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  Can't do toasts

  by Xanthippe in

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  i just phoned my cousin who's never been a jw.

  last week she went with her son-in-law and my jw sister for a meal after planting a tree at her daughter's grave.

  she said when my sister was dropped off at her house her husband said you do know she can't have toast.

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  Jesus clearly enjoyed his food and drink, including wine.
  
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  The Jewish perspective of the OT according to poster David_Jay

  by deegee in

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  i note your comments in the following threads regarding the jewish perspective on certain old testament (ot) events:.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5700922233585664/when-you-stop-think-about-why-would-gods-chosen-people-old-testament-need-army?page=1&size=10 ,.

  https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6065451475927040/why-didnt-god-also-reveal-himself-canaanites-just-he-did-moses-burning-bush.

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  My conclusion about the Jewish perspective of the OT based on your various comments in this forum is that Judaism seems to be a rather fluid religion filled with reinterpretations and rationalizations as time goes by. What was considered literal today may not be literal tomorrow. Hindsight has a way of changing religion.
  

  That sounds like my perception of JW beliefs, Deegee.