hi i'm wednesday and born and raised in jw.-inactive several years.
i have had a number of iincidents that appear to demonic've had spirit beings sit on my bed at ight and talk to me i've been literally touched by things unseen.
now i know the jw are big on demon stuff.
yew sixofnine-u won't find this at the KH LOL Really i'm not that thinnned skineed-i was just surpriwdd that a group of jw would find this story odd. It has been very interesting and i have enjoyed all post-u guys are too funny.
I am glad i found this chat board.
i find it utterly wrong as wrong can be to make fun of someone who is claiming to have demonic occurances.
yes, this is an uncomfortable subject and many here are filled with fear when the subject even comes up.
some choose to make fun of the situation while others declare the person to be insane.. i think it is fine to believe whatever you want to believe on this subject.
Wednesday here.
there are many reasons a person could hear"voices" schiz is not the only one My therapist, a PHD , does know about this and his taek on it is- if an entire group of people hold a belief in commom(ie belief in demons) then one cannot decide a single person from the group is crarzy based on the fact theat they too beleive this. When we were all active JW did we not believe in demons-i know everyone i knew did. I'll admit there was more talk in the 60-80 about demons than there is now. I really do see a lightning up on this subject. Whereas if anything unusual happened to someone-the standard reply was "must be the demons" now this is not always the case. So in that respect the jw havve moved a little out of dark ages.
Again, I do beleive in a spirit world. The account i told about happened one time. I did not talk with them-was was too scared. Nothing that bizzare has ever happened again. however, i am not afraid to admit that form time to time-someting unusal does happen. I only brought this topic up because it is soemthign we all share in common as JW.- Fear of demons. I wondered how others felt now that they had tleft JW..
I think looking back, that the sister was having a Hot dream. But, at the time it was very real to her .She is not the only sis who hs tole me of being raped by the demons. I've seen it in pages of Wt.
I want u to know i do not sit and aroundand dwell on this. I work and have a familyI am in thereapy for chidabuse issues and the tramuma of being DF several times by JW. I have seen a ahrink and he does not think i'm crazy eithe-just some post tramtic stress.
I never thiught ji would have to justify beleving in the demons to a group of kxjw's. I'm a little surpursed. .
Edited by - wednesday on 12 September 2002 22:49:5
after reading all the sad stories of how some here have been abused in a multitude of ways, if you had the opportunity now, would you speak up?
if you tended to be shy or insecure, would you want to speak out now, if you could?
to the poster who said I'd tell them to get their upty asses out of her....they never invited her to their get togethers..." boy do i understand that. The snobbery and socail calss distinctions run rampunt in JW. As i posted before-u could screw up big time and be dF numerous times but if they love u=they will take u back, if not-you screw up one time and u are gone.
Actually i did sort of tell and elde off-he had come to se my faithful mother who is in hospital. Ihe encourged me to come back to meetings. I said something to the fact"when u guys apologize for destroying my life". Lets see odds are i could eat a snowcone in hell before that would happen.
hi i'm wednesday and born and raised in jw.-inactive several years.
i have had a number of iincidents that appear to demonic've had spirit beings sit on my bed at ight and talk to me i've been literally touched by things unseen.
now i know the jw are big on demon stuff.
My therapist, who is a PHD, agrees with me. If an entire group believes something-then u can't call one individual of the group crazy soley based on this belief. Since it is an intergal part of jw belief systme that demons exist and harass humans by numerous methods-then u can't say i'm crazy solely based on the fact i had an experpience with them.
Ther are so many stories i have heard and some hav first hand knowledge of. The poster is so right about people believing things u get at garage sales will bring the demons into your house. i knew a sister who nearly cleaned out her entire house trying to rid it of demons.There is no story to bizzare not to be believed. My story actually pales to some i've heard.
hi i'm wednesday and born and raised in jw.-inactive several years.
i have had a number of iincidents that appear to demonic've had spirit beings sit on my bed at ight and talk to me i've been literally touched by things unseen.
now i know the jw are big on demon stuff.
for those of u bored as hell with THIS thread-well there has been started a new improved version of it called "the demons scared the crap out of me" started by , can't remember. Now Valis , u can go have a go at this person.And it is a fact-from sociology that belief of an unusaul "thing" if it is a part of the entire religion, culture , does not make the people crazy just by virture they belief in this unusual doctrine.
hi i'm wednesday and born and raised in jw.-inactive several years.
i have had a number of iincidents that appear to demonic've had spirit beings sit on my bed at ight and talk to me i've been literally touched by things unseen.
now i know the jw are big on demon stuff.
Valis i find your posts very mean. and it is not necessary to be . Even in college they taught me that no matter how absurbd some belief is-if it is a widely held group belief-then the members who believe it are not nuts.
And btw, many people besides jw believe in the spirit world.
hi i'm wednesday and born and raised in jw.-inactive several years.
i have had a number of iincidents that appear to demonic've had spirit beings sit on my bed at ight and talk to me i've been literally touched by things unseen.
now i know the jw are big on demon stuff.
i supose that is true. I too remember being frighned since a small child of things that go "bump in the night". I will tell u though-the most bizzre stores i ever personally heard-and I remember reading one in the wt too, are the stories of women who report demons having sex with them. i remember a totaly sane sister who was rather pretty telling a few of us siters that she had to sleep with Bibles in all the "stragetic places" to ward off demons. Now we all beliieved her.Was she crazy? no. She beoieved what every JW believed. I again repeat-i have seen a lighting up on demon stores since the 80's. there are less of them in the mags. used to be a regular feature.
hi i'm wednesday and born and raised in jw.-inactive several years.
i have had a number of iincidents that appear to demonic've had spirit beings sit on my bed at ight and talk to me i've been literally touched by things unseen.
now i know the jw are big on demon stuff.
Some of u are having a lot of fun at my expense. . My post was clear-they were talking wih me and it happpened one time. I have had other not so bizzare stuff happen. I'm sane as the rest of u-well saner than some of the people who have posted. I think the spirit world exists. If u do not and are not interested-fine. I don't know if they are angels, demons, ghosts are what. They occ make their presence known. I only brought this to this froum because as JW's i often found the subject came up and don't remember them telling me i'm nuts. In the long time i have been associated with JW-i have heard many demon stories. Many were much more vivid thatn what i posted. As matter of fact in the 60-70 we would regularly get a demon story in the wt or awake. I see less of it now. As a good jw , i was required to take those stories to heart-less they happen to me.
I am tired of being told to get a mental checkup. I think a few of u guys could benefit from one. I see a therapist and am sure i'm ok. not so sure about some others.
hi i'm wednesday and born and raised in jw.-inactive several years.
i have had a number of iincidents that appear to demonic've had spirit beings sit on my bed at ight and talk to me i've been literally touched by things unseen.
now i know the jw are big on demon stuff.
Intro:
Currenlty I'm inactive. i have only attended occ meeting since 97 and not been in service since 93 i think. You have a witty sense of humor that i enjoy. Actually, when i think of them talking to me
about there intense hatred for jehovah, now i know how they feel-who says jehovah has the right to make all the rules and why can't they just do what they want. Now, in all the years as an active jw, that is what they told me satan says. he wants to rule and not let jehovah make the rules. So by following that patten we are in a sense children of satan. I must tell u-if that really was them talking to me-and i believe it was- it actuallly makes a case for the JW teachings.I had been DF several times and was very bitter. I actually thought Jehovah would guide the elders to see the truth. he didn't. I have been abusesd by just about everyone in my life, in every possible way. I am in therapy and have been for 14 yrs. I have days when i'm better and days when i wish it was over.
I'm very confused abut JW stuff. It is all i know and i do still believe a lot of its teachings. Even when i was active i didn't believe all of it though. Especially when it came to prophecy, it just seemed that they would make stuff up if they wern't sure. I knew elders who sadi they didn't agree
either-but were content to wait on jehovah. There are many bad jw out ther-just as there ar many
bad baptists out there. The conduct of imperfect men does not bother me as much as their
unloving attitude toward those who have made mistakes.It always seemed that if u were in the rijght
crowd" u could screw up as much as u wanted and they'd taake u back. if thye did not alike u-one screw up-your out. I think that is the areq i hav a problem with them.
Edited by - wednesday on 12 September 2002 3:44:16
hi i'm wednesday and born and raised in jw.-inactive several years.
i have had a number of iincidents that appear to demonic've had spirit beings sit on my bed at ight and talk to me i've been literally touched by things unseen.
now i know the jw are big on demon stuff.
My screename comes form the old nursery Rhyme"Wednesday's Child is full of woe".channnel 8 (abc) used to run an adopt a child program called "wednesday's child". Generally conveying an unwanted child.
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