ok, so am i understanding this correctly-there will be no link between the new discusssion board and the silent lambs org? I understand bill does not want to be responsible for the content on the board-but a link would be good.
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silentlambs board gets name change & new ...
by wednesday injust got an info e-mail from bill, board is going down dunday mn.
due to too much ngeative talk.
possible he says the rev may open another formum not associated with sl.bill says the effort needs to be concentrated on the coming court cases.
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silentlambs board gets name change & new ...
by wednesday injust got an info e-mail from bill, board is going down dunday mn.
due to too much ngeative talk.
possible he says the rev may open another formum not associated with sl.bill says the effort needs to be concentrated on the coming court cases.
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Discussion board only-no intent to alarm. According to the info e-mail , Bill feels it was not turning out to be positive place for abuse survivors to be. It appears the negative topics were the ones most discussed.
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silentlambs board gets name change & new ...
by wednesday injust got an info e-mail from bill, board is going down dunday mn.
due to too much ngeative talk.
possible he says the rev may open another formum not associated with sl.bill says the effort needs to be concentrated on the coming court cases.
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just got an info e-mail from bill, board is going down dunday MN. due to too much ngeative talk. possible he says the REV may open another formum not associated with SL.Bill says the effort needs to be concentrated on the coming court cases.
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Hormone Hostage
by Simon inevery "hormone hostage" knows that there are days in the month when all a man has to do is open his mouth and he takes his life in his hands.
this is a handy guide that should be as common as a driver's license in the wallet of every husband, boyfriend, or male child.. dangerous: what's for dinner?.
safer: can i help you with dinner?.
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Simon, anaharard,
I passed these two jewels on to a few mailing list i post on-mostly chronic pain groups.Would u believe, one group BANNED me for this, b/c 2 females (of which i am also) compliained about the pms jokes!! humor is very important ,esp if u are dealing with a chronic illness. how awful to be humorless. All i could say to the list owner when he offfered to let me back in (first offense) was Live long and prosper.
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Boosting Attendance or Hunting Apostates?
by Elsewhere in.
recently, and reportedly in coming months, elders will be contacting inactive members.. it has been suggensted that their main objective is to hunt for apostates.. i'm inclined to think that "finding apostates" is just a side effect of their main objective, which is to boost meeting attendance.. any thoughts?
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RF u have such a gift of words.
How true, they are looking for leaks and tieing up loose ends and will be popping the big question. no doubt some will receive some encourgement-but mostly they are paranoid concerning the recent developemnts about child abuse and seeking to do dmange control. I worry a little, b/c it will be hard not to tell them i know those charges are true, just based on my own personal experience. But i can BS with those guys, i know what to look out for. And thanks to all u very nice guys, i am armed and ready.
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What to say to the elders
by freedom96 inso the elders come a knockin.
they ask "the question": so, do you consider yourself a jehovah's witness?.
what is the correct answer so they don't da or df you?.
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PurpleV,
yes it is hard to see all the many bad things in the org.-knowing as i do , that there are people in it that truly believe they are trying to help mankind. they are just dead wrong that they are they only people Jehovah accepts-so wrong. I have been shunned and treated like dirt for so long -- and through it all i have felt God's helping hand.When the jws didn't help us in our time of need- other people did. somehow we have survived. And i always wondered why people left the org-after all "where would they go". But until recenlty i did not get up the nerve to check out the internt sites. I decided to go against the wt and read what others were saying about jws.I am appalled, but i really think most religion has skeltons in its closet. All i know, i cna't go back -not nunless major changes occur. taht does not mean i do not believe in God, and continue to look for guidance.
I like what someone said a few posts back "i'm a jw that cannot do as much as i used to' or something to that affect. The reasons i cannot do as much as i used to -well they are many and varied. But i think that statement will get the elders off someones back..
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Recovering from shunning
by Elsewhere inhow does one recover from being shunned?
my family is shunning me.
so is everyone i grew up with since i was raised in the borg.
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I awoke this am lying in my bed, thinking of how many people i actually knew and could call, or who would come to my funeral.I thought about how few of my family is i ever have contact with.Most are not jw, but my grandfather and mom managed to alienate all the family so i have hardly any contact with what few frelatives i have left. I even got up and made a list to my realtives, and i intend to contact them one by one and try to restablish a relationship. i have an ODD situation though with my worldy relatives, most know a lot about JW and know i should not be talking to them. I can think of one right now who would get on the phone and call the jw's and tell them anything i said. So i cna't confide n my relatives. After all these years i cna't , without explantion just call and want to come visit.
tex is right, make a new life but keep the door open for your parents. I am finding making a new life difficult b/c i have sort of become a hermit and lost a lot of social skills and am afraid to trust people. I do thinnk some thearpy would help a lot. It's not a sign of weakness to get therapy.
One thing i know for sure,things change, and if u don't change with them , you'll be living in a strange world that does not exist.
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I'm taking a poll (sorry if it's been done before)
by lv4fer inif you were not born into the organization.
my prediction is that the majority were catholic or catholic lites (ie.
episcopal, lutheran, methodist).
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I was raised a jw, but my grandparents (fathers side) were methodists. they brought a lot of it with tme when they becomae jw .
I believe u are right. here in the bible belt-it is very hard to convert a baptist or church of christ to jw.
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What to say to the elders
by freedom96 inso the elders come a knockin.
they ask "the question": so, do you consider yourself a jehovah's witness?.
what is the correct answer so they don't da or df you?.
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hello purple,
i cannot accept the trinity, hellfire . A lot of religions teach this. I believe Jw at least have this right.i feel maybe there must be something to the idea that people will live here on this earth in peace at some point. so i'm not sure about the doctrine a lot of churches teach that we will all go to heaven.
Jw are dead wrong on Df and shunning. And i think for most of the holidays that are off.Also, they just sort of make up stuff where prophecy is concerned. and the news about the cover up regarding child molesters comes as no surprise too-i was victim to sexual abuse years ago and told not to report it and then df , while abuser went free. So i know these claims are true..
But this is an org. And i came to have a relationship with jehovah through it. but the org is somehow corrupted itself. and i cannot go back until they change things. They are not knocking on my door trying to get me back.. In fact-they haven't bothered to even call on us in years. They have seen us at a few meetings, but we have been told actually that why do we waste our time, we are only sunday church goers. (not by the elders however, ) I don't think jehovah feels that way about people, I feel he accepts many more than jw think.
i came here b/c i know the stories of abuse and ignorant elders. I realy did not understand my feelings about org utnil i read Gary busslems' site. I have only known this religion all my life. I guess i'm probably waiting on jehovah to clean up his org.
Clearly i am confused about many things. but not about believing in God and his son. I am going to let jehovah help me find the right path.
One day i am mad the next day i am inclinded to forgive them. Go figure.
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What to say to the elders
by freedom96 inso the elders come a knockin.
they ask "the question": so, do you consider yourself a jehovah's witness?.
what is the correct answer so they don't da or df you?.
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We must all face the facts. per the literature, they are calling on all incative ones this next year. they are doing it to houseclean. With all this lastest apostate news, they feel the need to tighten the grip they have . now they just view it as keeping jehovah's org clean. they wonder why we would care anyway. We are not attending, don't want to be a jw, so why don't we want' to make it offical? they are very hateful about this. Acting like there are no consequences of being da. b/c they know others will shun us.That is our punishment-too bad for us. We can't have their friendship and be a part of the world too.. They feel all we could do is cause them trouble and they know how to get rid of troublemakers. They are clamping down and going to have more control of everything, esp. wo get access to the literature. this is just he beginning. expect to see a almost undergruond type contol of information.
In my personal case, my hubby still belieives it is the truth.. he does not attend much and is inactive. But we both have illness issues and such. if they ask him if he views it as Jehovahs' org-he'll say yes. And i will too, b/c i'm not 100% sure it is not, so why rock the boat? it will not change my feelings or cause me to start to attend meetings. My husband will not allow us to celebrate the holidays (not openly anyway) so they will never see any evidence of that. So unless jehovahs' spirit is truley guiding them to "get" all of us problem people-i think a lot of us can BS our way through it.