Posts by one

19

1919 Cleansing

by IP_SEC in

ok, according to the rigcah, patdp, and ipalfam i and ii the jewish restoration prophecy fulfilled in 537 bc has an antitype in 1919 ad when the wt officers were released from prison.

this is obviously a central teaching of the slave.

they say they were exonerated of all the charges that caused them to go to prison, and because of their faith they were accepted as the slave at that time.

one

Heat,

Also from what I've read they also accuse the apostate religious leaders of paying off those that locked them up .

most likekly true but the WT asked for it, as they concentrated their message talking against other religions, until recently WT found pleausre in finding derty laundry, instead of just talking about "good news", well as political people know, it is more effective denigrating the other party...

Robert,

"The Finished Mystery"

How could i forget that... by not going to meettings you start to foget details

1

Baby boomers going to White House on october

by one in

baby boomers going to white house next october.

what do you know about that conference?

babyboomer anyone born in the 18 year period of 1946-1964, i am not too shure about 1964 it could be 1968.

one

Baby boomers going to White House next october. What do you know about that conference?

babyboomer anyone born in the 18 year period of 1946-1964, i am not too shure about 1964 it could be 1968.

imo babyboomers are responsible for the better things going on today, the bad and worst worst was inherited, democracic, human and "civil right" etc were not enforced, males were forced to go to war etc etc.

27

National ID Cards

by RescueMe in

the u.s. house of representatives approved on thursday a sweeping set of rules aimed at forcing states to issue all adults federally approved electronic id cards, including driver's licenses.

under the rules, federal employees would reject licenses or identity cards that don't comply, which could curb americans' access to airplanes, trains, national parks, federal courthouses and other areas controlled by the federal government.

the bill was approved by a 261-161 vote.

one

If the government was as serious as they have stated in the past to reduce our dependence on foreign oil, yes, they should invest in alternative energy.

the usa already invested in alternative energy, but not for mass production, everything is ready to roll if absolutely neccessary, not too soon as long as there is oil and gas around somewhere to be grabbed, no matter what. Other powerfull nations play the same game along the usa. They call it survival instinct

27

National ID Cards

by RescueMe in

the u.s. house of representatives approved on thursday a sweeping set of rules aimed at forcing states to issue all adults federally approved electronic id cards, including driver's licenses.

under the rules, federal employees would reject licenses or identity cards that don't comply, which could curb americans' access to airplanes, trains, national parks, federal courthouses and other areas controlled by the federal government.

the bill was approved by a 261-161 vote.

one

Little,

To what end? Cheap Oil? Or the sacrifice of US Constitutional guarantees of personal liberties for the benefit of a technocracy?

"between a rock and a hard palce",

well it is either cheap oil or exploit alternative energy (usa knows perfectly how to do it, it has perfected it). If other sources of energy become freely available it means the begining of the end for the present (oil controlled) geopolitical system.

27

National ID Cards

by RescueMe in

the u.s. house of representatives approved on thursday a sweeping set of rules aimed at forcing states to issue all adults federally approved electronic id cards, including driver's licenses.

under the rules, federal employees would reject licenses or identity cards that don't comply, which could curb americans' access to airplanes, trains, national parks, federal courthouses and other areas controlled by the federal government.

the bill was approved by a 261-161 vote.

one

The USA is at war, (permanently at war !) constitutional rights can be reduced during periods of war, or "national safety"

that is the price usa residents and citizenz have to pay for their elected gov not doing its job preventing terrorism (intentionally to have excuses to...? )

States i understand were complaining not wanting to be told how to issue local documents, such as a local/state driver's license.

The federal gov will just "buy", make them change their opinion buy offering federal funds for this and that.

There is no such a thing as STATES UNITED, states have been loosing power at the speed of light there is a central gov controlling everythin, period.

7

Free trade, Globalization, good or bad?

by JH in

jw
friends

since many years now, we hear alot about globalization.

i know that many jobs went to china and india because they work at small wages compared to here.. personally, i don't like globalization and free trade.

i t think that many jobs were lost because of it.

one

every country should be self sufficient

no possible, specially when developed countries refuse to make available technologies to acomplish such a "goal" (?)

The whole world is tied to hydrocarbons (mainly oil) , controlled by you know who, did i say irak?

when there is no need for being so dependent on such a thing,

the technology to acomphish independence from hydrocarbons is being put on hold for many decades already. It is a geopolitical power struggle, nothing else

17

If shunning was stopped?????

by chuckyy in

.

if shunning was stopped as a result of society policy change, do you think that there would be a significant exodus out of the organization????.

chukky

one

for legal reasons it will be stopped in black and white but will stay as an unwritten rule, watch.

73

UN Scandal - does anyone know the reason they joined to start with?

by AK - Jeff in

like most on this board, i know the story, have seen the un press release, ect.

but can someone comment on two questions for me?.

who caught them with their hands in the cookie jar?

one

In that letter Paul Gillies press officer

for jw ask: "PS please do not publish my email address"

"...YEARS later, UNBEKNOWN to the Governing Body of Jehovah's Witnesses, the UN published criteria for Association........."

yes, "deliberately vague enough", they like quoting so why dont they quote the "UN published criteria"

23

I am getting that Crisis of Conscience book

by inquirer in

i am going to read this think you know.

a ex-bethelite (i've never been keen on jw titles!

) he should provide me with a lot of interesting information!

one

Mungo,

Look for a passage in which he criticizes himself, because I doubt you'll find one. Then he blasts the Governing Body for never admitting their mistakes.

I doubt he will NOT find one. Actually i am sure he will find at least one or two "passage" where Raymond Franz does "criticizes himself ". sorry i dont have the booi with me right now to quote it.

To be fair his conclusion is that he, GB members and all jw were/are "VICTIM OF VICTIMS",

i beleive that. those who teached my family the "truth" were doing sincerely, beleiving what in turn was teached to them previously. Think about your case... or anyone here about the persons who teached you the jw religion.

BUT no-one is withot blame, the book says. In my own words, those who accepted the jw religion did not do their "Home Work" (trade mark of Whoknowwhom) before joining, but swalloed the 'hook' and everything else....

yet rather harshly states that his uncle's decades of service will mean nothing to God when he faces judgement. That's blatant hypocrisy

If he say that: "nothing"... he not too far from logic. What will "mean" "decades of service" when after confronted with facts and reality the person continues (as done for "decades") to teach what has been proven false?

'talking like that about his uncle , I find being honest rather than "hypocrisy", he mentioned his uncle several times confirming that his uncle was the "oracle", the one reponsible for all major rules and teachings, including 1975 , not an small thing by the way. IMO his uncle was afraid and jelous... Freddy got used to get "kissed" by every other member of the GB, even Knorr (president for decades) was reluctant to go against his opinions, the whole WT depended on Freddy for doctrines and bible interpretations.

But now a honest man, as smart as his uncle, was capable and had the guts to speak out and make sense out of all those doctrines.

19

1919 Cleansing

by IP_SEC in

ok, according to the rigcah, patdp, and ipalfam i and ii the jewish restoration prophecy fulfilled in 537 bc has an antitype in 1919 ad when the wt officers were released from prison.

this is obviously a central teaching of the slave.

they say they were exonerated of all the charges that caused them to go to prison, and because of their faith they were accepted as the slave at that time.

one

Nazis?, no, they went to jail around 1918, as far i remember it had to do with a book the WT published around that time which the usa authorities considered a sedicious publication. Eight (8) WT officials were found guilty, convicted, went to jail, locked for abut 9 month, the WT continued to fight the case in courts and the the WWI ended and they got out of jail.

BUT they had to remove, i dont remember how many, pages from the book, i dont remember the title of the book either.

THAT precedent is what got me thinking about the NGO/UN asociation and the fact that the WT has not continued showing pictures about the beast in Revelation as representing the USA BRITAIN the UN etc.

The Iraq wars (seen by islamic as holy wars, the mother of all wars etc) and other wars have a key religious element, all of that and more could have placed the WT under the 'sedition radar'.