Posts by Whynot

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Humans brought to Earth, not native to it.

by Bad_Wolf in

below i link the article.

i thought some points on the claim were interesting.

such as how prolonged direct exposure to sunlight hurts us vs other animals, sicknesses, etc.

Roll Call for the benefit of Newbies and Lurkers. In One Sentence tell why you left the Org.

by Wasanelder Once in

roll call for the benefit of newbies and lurkers.

in one sentence tell why you left the org.

not 2 sentences.

I have always had doubts but was always told to wait upon Jehovah and just trust the governing body. I had a crisis in my life that forced me to reconsider my whole life decisions and beliefs. I questioned everything. It made me realize that religion is not the answer and that WT is just another business. I didn't realize how much I was looking to WT as I would God. The WT was my god. I also realized that pretty much everyone I know who is a JW has this feeling as well. My journey isn't over but it's been a rollercoaster that has been gradually stabilizing.

I still believe in Jehovah, Jesus and I'm restudying the Bible. I feel like I had to start from scratch. This time I'm open minded and willing to see ALL facts. My faith is still there even though it did get trembled. I find myself praying, reading and studying more.

A book that really helped figure myself out was The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse. It helped me analyze myself, my emotions, my thoughts since I felt so overwhelmingly scattered by the life crisis I was going through. Crisis of Conscience, In Search for Christian Freedom also helped process my thoughts towards the organization.

I find it absolutely fascinating to study the Bible in a different light. I've been reading on the books in the Dead Sea Scrolls, secular history while learning greek and hebrew. I'm not an expert. I just think it's interesting and fun.

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My search for religion.

by joe134cd in

since leaving the jws i have become more interested in finding out about other faiths.

here are a few of my findings.. lds: i just couldnt get my head around the mental gymnastics i would have to do to understand their doctrines and theology.

i attended their services twice.

Whynot

Wow! You're truly making an effort. I do want to mention that JWs leave their religion they temd to be vulnerable and desprately look for a substitute. It's like leaving an abusive relationship and falling into another. There's also religious co-dependence. During this time, i would focus on strenghthening your relationship with God and follow Jesus NOT religion. Religion can be good at introducing people to faith and sparking that desire within for a spiritual life. God is a spirit and those worshipping him do it in spirit and truth. Humans have a need to belong but if you pray about you WILL find your tribe. I highly recommend you read a book called The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse by David Johnson and Jeff VanVonderen. It's extremely important to know who you are, how being a JW affected you and how to avoid falling in a similar pattern.

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jwartwork.org

by bs_since_1870s in

forum
links

i just updated my website, any feedback is welcome!.

jwartwork.org.

Whynot

The link isn't working

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YMCA membership what is the current belief?

by Whynot in

i know that having a y membership was a huge no, no for jws.

there hasn't been any information on this subject in decades.

i met an elder's wife a few years ago that goes to the y and also has a membership.

Whynot

I know that having a Y membership was a huge no, no for JWs. There hasn't been any information on this subject in decades. I met an elder's wife a few years ago that goes to the Y and also has a membership. So I'm thinking there was an unwritten change somehow. It just hasn't been published for some reason. At the same time, if it's not acceptable for JWs to have a membership, wouldn't that also mean that they can't eat at Chic-fil-a or Cracker Barrell or any business who supports "christendom"? It may even affect JWs going to Starbucks, right? I also don't understand why it would be ok for JWs to have an NGO membership with the UN but not at the Y.

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Why do ones that got out come back in?

by moreconfusedthanever in

i have not been to a meeting for about 2 years now.

i do not intend to go back but one thing has me baffled.

why do ones that have faded and been out for years return?

Whynot

There's a book titled "The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse" where it explains why people go back to abusive religions/relationships. There's a certain comfort zone, they think their situation may be worse if they leave, they hope for an improvement. It's very common for this to happen wether you're s JW, Mormon, Catholic or of any religion who uses abuse to get control of the members.

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Am I Overreacting Here?

by pale.emperor in

let's call him "dave".. dave: hello?.

dave: we dont have to tell you how she is.

dave: <her mother> has custody.

Whynot

I don't know if this helps but I had my Custodial and Visitation agreement modified to not allow unsupervised visits with certain family members. I asked my lawyer and he said I was allowed in my state in the USA

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My JW Update

by jdash in

hey guys!

for me, things are doing better, you could say.

ever since i been on here, posting, and whatnot, i have been even more enlightened, if that's the correct word.

Whynot

I highly recommend this book: The Subtle Power of Spiritual Abuse by David Johnson and Jeff Van Vonderen. The book explains in detail how religious leaders manipulate and weigh you down in guilt and shame and how it affects you. It also offers advice in how to break free and overcome the damage done

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Who deserves the title of king of apostasy ?

by Chook in

i think this would be a noble endeavour..

Whynot

I really don't like the word apostasy. I feel like the WT has placed a new meaning for the term. I don't see these wonderful people as apostates. Just my opinion. I would rather call them Truth Tellers or something similar

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Reflecting On The JW Version Of You

by pale.emperor in

lately i've been thinking over how far i've come over the last 2.5 years since leaving the cult.

when i first left i remember not knowing who i really was and what my beliefs and values were.

previously my values and beliefs were dictated to me the the governing body in watchtower magazines.. i'm politically active, being a member of a political party and i'm even considering running in my local election in a few years.. when it comes to religion, im an atheist who has little time for superstition and "god did it" answers to complex questions.

Whynot

Before I became a JW I was very, very close to Jehovah. I changed once I started following the organization. Even though I was born into it, my father never spoke about the Watchtower or GB. Our congregation was very loose too, like when it came to WT rules and policies. It was nice actually. But the CO and DO had to "fix" things. I didn't notice how much I changed until I was in my mid-twenties and I noticed that I felt myself being more faithful to an organization rather than Jehovah. I felt like I had lost my identity. Things started to come clear when I got separated from my husband. It was such a huge crisis. My husband was an elder and then suddenly he was DF and most people started shunning me as well. My eyes were open but I felt more lost than ever. That was 4 years ago and it has really shaped who I am now.

As of now:

I don't believe in ANY religion but I do believe in the Bible.

My relationship with Jehovah has been restored to how it was before being indoctrinated by the WT.

I feel more hopeful towards the future and less preocupied with rituals that please men.

I'm more open to all kinds of people without feeling paranoid of their bad influence.

I feel like i have a more authentic love for people in general and the desire to do community service.

Definitely more outspoken about my feminists beliefs I have always had but had to surpress.

My husband, still DF, isn't too comfortable with this new me. He actually wants to go back. I faded out these past 4 years and don't want to go back. My husband suffered greatly from spiritual abuse and I think he realky misses the comfort zone the congregation provided for him. (Sigh)