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  Major Article in Today's Philadelphia Inquirer on JW Child Abuse

  by Room 215 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  http://www.philly.com/philly/news/jehovahs-witnesses-sexual-abuse-children-beliefs-rules.html.

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  Whynot

  That second to last paragraph made me tear up. (Sigh) Excellent article! I'm saving it
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  Wasted A #@$%&!** Day

  by FedUpJW in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well i got to waste another day.

  for the sake of still in family i attended the circuit assembly.

  they say a joy shared is doubled, and a burden shared is halved.

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  Whynot

  Did they also mention how they demand insurance checks in exchange for rebuilding ypur house after a natural disaster? Non-jedubs can also get their houses rebuilt as long as they give up their insurance checks.
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  Has anyone seen this?

  by wokeup in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  google: vintage freemason compilation collinsworth family.. several pages into the program has a familiar face..

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  Whynot

  Those pictures are pretty cool. Too bad it's not the WTBT C.T. Russell
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  Withdrawing community support in the congs

  by purrpurr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've noticed in the past 10 years that the social support that used to be available in the congs, a shoulder to cry on, elders to help with family/marriage issues these seem to have been purposely withdrawn.

  counsel is even heard from the platform that the elders are not there to help people with their problems.. so first in the 80s-90s they take away the congregation get to getters and social events and now they seem to be going one step further in taking away the emotional support for people too.. this will take away an aspect that i'm sure was keeping alot of people in the borg, the community support.

  if that's not there and its just about meetings and ministry how many will start to get their emotional support elsewhere?.

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  Whynot

  Personal experience, one of the first things I learned as a new witness many, many years ago is that you're on your own emotionally. It didn't really bother me until I got separated from my husband. People avoided me like I was diseased or something. The elders didn't talk to me until a month later. They also didn't care much for me even though I was going through the worst crisis of my life. Going to the meetings just made it worse. So much shaming. It was brutal and made me question everything. My so called friends who were pioneers married to elders avoided me.

  Elders in some congregations specifically tell married couples in trouble that they are not counselors nor therapists. Their focus is helping the "sheep" spiritually not emotionally.

  When I was going through my ordeal in my marriage the only advuce I got was pray, go to meetings, keep going in service and read the organization's literature on marriage and divorce. It was a joke!
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  Retirement Planning

  by Whynot in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since waking up i can't help but look at the future in a different way.

  while i was working i felt it was ridiculous for me to start a 401k because i thought for sure the end would come before i retired.

  but now, i'm a stay at home mom with very small children and it bothers me that i have done nothing to prepare for the future.

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  I was a bank teller. I think I really have to take some online courses to keep my brain fresh.
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  Do any of the 144,000 in heaven take part in the destruction at Armageddon?

  by Bonnie_Clyde in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wondered about that when i heard garret loesch state that shortly before the tribulation the governing body would be taken up.

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  if this is the case, it seems like garret and the other seven would be there just in time to help out in the killing of billions.. i thought they used to say that some would survive armageddon before they were taken up..

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  Whynot

  That's exactly what they have been teaching for a long time. The 144k will be in heaven and start armageddon with Jesus.
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  Jesus—a real, historical person

  by Ireneus in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jesus was a real and historical person (not the way jws or the rest of the people think him to be) because of the following historical facts:.

  1) the fact that the most influential political establishment of that time (roman empire) was convinced that jesus’ name would sell to suit their political agenda (to promote slavery) shows that jesus was as historical as roman empire itself; hence they implanted slavery-friendly verses into the bible as though spoken by jesus (such as mathew 5:39, 41; 24:45 ..etc) this was in contrast to the real personality jesus really was—he was a man of courage, who ‘walked alone to do what is right if those invited refused to accompany him.’ when his family and disciples were fond of sleeping, his delight was to spend early morning hours alone, in meditation, with god to the extent he could say he was “one” with qualities of god.

  (mark 1:35; john 8:1, 2; 10:30) such a person would naturally be too famous and too crowd-pulling against whom even the influential people were helpless even when they were whipped out of the temple which reminds us of “hollywood rambo style” merely because of his moral authority (not that he had any supernatural powers to perform miracles).. 2) similarly, emerging religion (apostate christianity) too knew they could misuse the name of jesus to serve its commercial agenda.

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  Whynot

  Here's a link with some info

  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/apr/14/what-is-the-historical-evidence-that-jesus-christ-lived-and-died
  
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  I sometimes wonder what the world would be like if "Religion" had never reared it`s head.?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  can you imagine what the world of mankind would be like if their was never any concept of a god or religious beliefs ?.

  for the love of me i can`t ,maybe i don`t have an imaginative mind equipped well enough to do so .. how about you guys ?

  any takers ?.

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  Whynot

  Religious organizations, maybe. But not without religious or spiritual beliefs. There are too many unexplained things that happen on this earth that can only be explained by spiritual beliefs.

  Like tiki said, some people feel it more strongly and that is very true.
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  Retirement Planning

  by Whynot in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  since waking up i can't help but look at the future in a different way.

  while i was working i felt it was ridiculous for me to start a 401k because i thought for sure the end would come before i retired.

  but now, i'm a stay at home mom with very small children and it bothers me that i have done nothing to prepare for the future.

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  Whynot

  Since waking up I can't help but look at the future in a different way. While I was working I felt it was ridiculous for me to start a 401k because I thought for sure the end would come before I retired. But now, I'm a stay at home mom with very small children and it bothers me that I have done nothing to prepare for the future. I was thinking of getting a Roth IRA since my husband works I can do that. What have uou guys done?

  I still have about 20 years to save up for retirement. One of the things I want to do is go back to work when my youngest starts school and save up that way. I just want to start now.
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  What's Up with These Two-Week JW Preaching Junkets to Israel?

  by Room 215 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my wife just related experiences at the local kingdom hall of several locals having made two-week "need is greater" trips to israel, ostensibly to preach there... what's up with this nuttiness?.

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  Whynot

  Are you reffering to this? http://www.jewishpress.com/news/local/warning-cult-launches-countrywide-campaign/2018/03/26/