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What does "everlasting life" mean?

by N.drew in

john 3:16. i'll just say that the way i understand it is i am existing in it, it is not existing in me.. 166 (ai?nios) does not focus on the future per se, but rather on the quality of the age (165 /ai?n) it relates to.

thus believers live in "eternal (166 /ai?nios) life" right now, experiencing this quality of god's life now as a present possession.

(note the gk present tense of having eternal life in jn 3:36, 5:24, 6:47; cf.

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It is an assignment. At least in the world of Jehovah's Witnesses. Jehovah's Witnesses proclaim that you must deny yourself and dedicate your entire being to Jehovah. This mean not pursuing your own interests.

As a reward for being faithful, you will be spared at Armageddon and live forever as a slave to Jehovah. You will pursue his purposes, forever, and his purposes alone. Living forever as a non-thinking robo-slave.

Also, everlasting life is not immortality. Immortality infers that life comes from within ones self. Where as everlasting life means you will live as long as something unnatural does not cause your death.

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Awake!: Sometimes You Just Have To Pick Your Jaw Up Off The Floor

by metatron in

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ah, deception must be so-o-o-o-o-o- easy when you can deal with people who have no critical thinking skills.. an amazing example?

the past november awake magazine !

the cover asks, "is belief in a creator reasonable?".

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I was out in service with the presiding overseer's wife one day. She made a comment along the lines that all dinosaurs were herbivores and that t-rex and other predator dinosaurs used their teeth to strip bark off of trees for food.

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Our latest "Gee it's great not to be a JW" moment. Share yours!

by Open mind in

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recently my son had a minor injury that required a trip to the emergency room.

the admitting nurse asked us a ton of questions and then this:.

nurse: do you have a religion?.

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There are so many. One of the more recent ones was coming home from work on Halloween. My two boys had gone trick-or-treating for the first time. My wife told me that my youngest said, "Mom, people really like me!"

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My Return Visit....

by TimeBandit in

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last thanksgiving i was down in southern new mexico visiting my in-law's.

while i was there, i ran off some jws (i used to attend their congregation) that were attempting to call on my sister in law.

i had also posted anti jw signs all over town and in front of the kh.

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TimeBandit:

I'm very interested to see what your signs say. This sounds interesting.

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Is this possible...... Hundreds of Bethelites now engaged in major reform?

by koolaid-man in

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we all know the watchtower organization is now in a defensive mode.

unrelenting criticism and critical information is rapidly coming forward exposing this esoteric cult.. are their hundreds of bethelites now understanding how evil their "faithfull slave" really is?

has the revolution begun?.

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Whatever their sentence would be, it would be reduced to 2 years. Just like in 1919.

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Elder father sent me an email about Feb 2012 WT - my resposne

by TheStumbler in

i'm not sure if any of you will remember but i posted on here six months ago about a correspondence i was having with my dad, an elder, about who would die in armageddon.

i was asking some tough questions about children being killed in armageddon and i could tell he uncomfortable with the answers he was giving.. i drafted an email in resposne to his email but in the end i decided not to send it in the interest of maintaining friendly relations.. .

last week, out of the blue, my dad sent an email link to the february 2012 watchtower article about armageddon and said it would answer some of my questions.. here is my response which is a critique of the feb 2012 wt article and some of the broader ethics concerning 'armageddon'.

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"As for God having done it in the past. On the occasion of the flood he used a natural disaster but offered protection for anyone who wanted it in the ark. He had to destroy that world at the time because of the violent and cruel halfbreed giants and their demon fathers." - tornapart

Why not just kill the half-breed giants?

Why use a flood? The Bible records that one angel killed an entire army in their sleep.

Jesus also said that the last days would be just like the days of Noah.

In addition, the modern day Noah's Ark is the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses.

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Elder father sent me an email about Feb 2012 WT - my resposne

by TheStumbler in

i'm not sure if any of you will remember but i posted on here six months ago about a correspondence i was having with my dad, an elder, about who would die in armageddon.

i was asking some tough questions about children being killed in armageddon and i could tell he uncomfortable with the answers he was giving.. i drafted an email in resposne to his email but in the end i decided not to send it in the interest of maintaining friendly relations.. .

last week, out of the blue, my dad sent an email link to the february 2012 watchtower article about armageddon and said it would answer some of my questions.. here is my response which is a critique of the feb 2012 wt article and some of the broader ethics concerning 'armageddon'.

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On a side note:

Jehovah, god of Abraham and Isaac, pledged to rid the earth of wickedness.

Thor, god of thunder, pledged to rid the earth of frost giants.

When was the last time you saw a frost giant?

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Elder father sent me an email about Feb 2012 WT - my resposne

by TheStumbler in

i'm not sure if any of you will remember but i posted on here six months ago about a correspondence i was having with my dad, an elder, about who would die in armageddon.

i was asking some tough questions about children being killed in armageddon and i could tell he uncomfortable with the answers he was giving.. i drafted an email in resposne to his email but in the end i decided not to send it in the interest of maintaining friendly relations.. .

last week, out of the blue, my dad sent an email link to the february 2012 watchtower article about armageddon and said it would answer some of my questions.. here is my response which is a critique of the feb 2012 wt article and some of the broader ethics concerning 'armageddon'.

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Jehovah destroyed the entire surface of the earth with a great flood and only spared the lives of 8 humans...allegedly. Why not destroy billions of "wicked" people, including their babies, to settle a bet with an angel? He did it once. Anything done once is possible to repeat. That is if it ever really happened.

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Pros about being a jehovah's witness

by raxxxx in

can you personally think of any pros of being a jws?

anything that you have experienced that was and still is beneficial to you now from when u were a jw?.

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Ignorance is bliss.

Life is always easier when someone else makes all your decisions for you.

If you are an uneducated bafoon you'll fit right in.

You don't need pay for medication or treatment for mental illness. It's just the demons messing with you.

You don't need to pay for marriage counselling. Window washers and janitors called "elders" will do it for free.

A summer vacation is planned for you every year. It's called a "District Convention". You just have to find a way to pay for it.

You get to visit a lot of coffee shops and garage sales while trying to sell the Watch Tower band in field service.

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why do jw's think that by behaving weridly they are giving a "good witness"?

by highdose in

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friends

you know when they refuse to attend family functions that invole anything religous, won't chink glasses, won't allow their children any freedom etc.

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from their perspective they think they are setting "a fine example" and givng a "good witness" the outsiders just think they are bat crazy but the jw's just can't see it???

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Since the days of Charles T. Russell and especially with Rutherford, the Watch Tower Society promotes ways to go to extreme lengths to be different. The reason giving usually has to do with Jesus' saying that he was no part of "the world" and neither are his people. The reality is that it is nothing more than a marketting tool.

Humans are naturally curious. When someone is acting different people want to know why. So, when someone asks one of Jehovah's Witnesses why they refuse to participate in [insert normal, accepted activity here] the Witness is given a pass to repeat their doctrine in hopes to convert you.

This brings up another related point. Why is it that the difference is always negative? That is to say, the difference in Witnesses is a refusal to do something. It's never a matter of something that they do.

Witnesses may respond: "That's not true. We are the only one's involved in a worldwide preaching work."

My response is, "Wrong!"

I get more Baptists knocking on my door wanting to talk about the Bible than I do Jehovah's Witnesses.

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