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08:20 27.1.kristoffer solberg.
jehovah's witnesses denied state aid.
Does anyone else find it interesting that it is only Abrahamic faith religions, such as Christianity and Islam, that cry "persecution of religious freedom" when what these religious extremists really mean is "How dare you deny me the ability to oppress and persecute others in the name of my religious beliefs"?
The gall to complain and petition a government in an attempt to demand taxpayer funding while simultaneously insisting on emotionally abusing children is down right criminal.
what i mean by the title of this thread is what has happened to a relative of mine, one who is really upset about this factor:.
this relative is a distant cousin on my mother's side of the family.
she studied as a child and got baptized at 14 1/2 years old.
There are so many stories like this. Here is another point that goes along with it - Not one JW will open there home for their dear sister and take her in like a true Christian. Let's be honest; that's how Christianity is supposed to work.
If the end has not come before a person is too old to financially support themselves the congregation is supposed to care for that person's needs. What we all know as former JWs is not one Witness family will do this. Not one!
On no less than 3 separate occasions in my life I found myself homeless and unable to financially provide shelter for myself. All 3 times non-Witness co-workers took me into their homes. They provided me a rent free room and treated me like a guest.
i spent most of my life in the org.
we were taught that our purpose in life was to serve jehovah.
that never really made sense to me, but it was still a purpose to keep going.
PunkofNice - One day my wife and I are going to visit the UK. We need to get together. Pints on me!
I play in a fairly successful local rock band.
I research my family tree.....some surprises there, too.
I have joined a Viking re-enactment group.
i have seen arguments surrounding jesus' resurrection being proof of "the trinity" - now while in some cases it's a good argument the evidence for it remains very weak.
(bible quotes are from the nwt but other bibles are referenced, use whichever you please) this following version of it is a good example.. "the bible indicates that all [persons] of the trinity was involved in jesus’ resurrection.
galatians[1:1] says that the father raised jesus from the dead.
Is it really a sacrifice if you come right back? How many animal sacrifices came back 3 days later?
When a mortal freely gives his life in exchange for another it is a sacrifice because the dead don't come back.
jehovah's witnesses refuse to believe that jesus is the almighty god.
they would state that jesus is 'mighty', but not almighty.. below is a 30 minute video proving from the word of god that the lord jesus christ is both mighty and almighty, separate from the father but equal too.. the verses used from scripture show without a doubt that christ is mighty (isaiah 9:6) and almighty (rev 1:7-8)..
I believe the historic Jesus was a faith healer who had a psychedelic experience brought on by starvation and dehydration that lead to his Enlightenment. Jesus then used Jewish Mythology as a means to convey his Enlightened experience. Later, Paul and John deified Jesus and created stories of miracles to bolster the new religion they started.
i spent most of my life in the org.
we were taught that our purpose in life was to serve jehovah.
that never really made sense to me, but it was still a purpose to keep going.
You're free to set your own goals and purpose in your life.
There is no purpose in life, but each of us does desire to have meaning. Perhaps meaning is a greater desire over that of happiness. I was once were you are. I read 2 books that helped me through this and I am better than I have ever been.
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
So, are we all in agreement that the WTS is "not" the faithful and discreet slave as they claim to be? If so, then who really is?
No one is.
45 “Who then is the faithful and wise servant, whom the master has put in charge of the servants in his household to give them their food at the proper time? 46 It will be good for that servant whose master finds him doing so when he returns. 47 Truly I tell you, he will put him in charge of all his possessions. 48 But suppose that servant is wicked and says to himself, ‘My master is staying away a long time,’ 49 and he then begins to beat his fellow servants and to eat and drink with drunkards. 50 The master of that servant will come on a day when he does not expect him and at an hour he is not aware of. 51 He will cut him to pieces and assign him a place with the hypocrites, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Who is the faithful and discreet slave of Matthew 24:45? Who is the wicked servant of Matthew 24:28? Notice the faithful and discreet slave of Matthew 24:45 is the same one in verse 48 - "But suppose that servant (faithful and wise) is wicked..."
So, Jesus was speaking an opportunity for Christians. Take care of your fellow servants and when Jesus returns he will put you in charge of all his possessions. Beat on your fellow Christians and Jesus will cut you to pieces.
In short, its a promise and a warning to Christians. Be Christlike or else. It is not a designated person or group.
if anyone were to come up to you claiming that they are the faithful and discreet slave, how would you go about proving them to be false, based upon scripture?.
estephan.
recall the famous charge made against jesus in his trial in the gospel mark: .
“we heard him say, ‘i will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and in three days i will build another, not made with hands.’”.
matt has a shorter version which likely reflects what he saw in his copy of mark *:.
The Book of Mark or the Gospel According to Mark is probably the on book in the entire Bible of any value.
The Book of Matthew or the Gospel According to Matthew (Matthias) is a plagiarized version of the Book of Mark intended for Jewish readers.
The Book of Luke or the Gospel According to Luke is a plagiarized version of the Book of Mark intended for Roman readers.
The Book of John or the Gospel According to John is a plagiarized version of the Book of Mark with some added make-believe miracles and the deifying of Jesus.
Jesus was a faith healer who had a psychedelic experience induced from starvation and dehydration. This led Jesus to being Enlightened. Jesus used the Jewish mythology to teach his fellow Jews what he had learned. The Book of Mark sums this up nicely.
So, in short, whatever is in Mark is more likely to be true if true. By the time the Book of John rolls around a lot of magical nonsense has been added to the story and the whole point of Jesus life and ministry is glossed right over in favor of "Jesus is God in human form" and "salvation is all that matters".
To the point - Jesus is not the Messiah the Jews were anticipating. If Jesus were the Jews would have overthrown the Roman Empire and Jesus would have been the King of the Earth right then and there.
last spring norweigian state refused to give public contribution to jws (religious organisations can apply that in norway and previously wtbs has been granted that).
the decision was caused because of practise of disfellowshpiping.. now there is a new twist.. 25.10.2022 authorites in norway send a letter to wtbs and told them that they have four weeks to fix that practise.
if they don't do that they will loose their status as a religiouse organisation.. intrestingly jws did not "understand" what authorites meant by that and requested more time.. how can they not understand?
Norway seems to be a nation of innovation.
