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  For all the newbies.. the Belief-O-Matic...what religion should you be? Test your religious beliefs.

  by jemba in

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  i noticed that this thread has been done before by blacksheep but i loved doing this test and i loved the results i got... apparently i need to look into reformed judaism.

  jemba .

  sorry firefox wont let me cut n paste but heres the website:.

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  91% Neo-Pagan

  Hail Odin!
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  Looking for words, phrases, ideology. WT vs scriptural

  by blond-moment in

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  i have a friend, who is compiling information.

  he is not a jw, but wife is.

  looking for words, phrases, ideologies that jws live and die by that are wt teachings, but not scriptural.

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  I forgot my all time favorite: the belief that the intentional killing of another human is always murder and makes one bloodguilty. Even if you are justified in protecting yourself or another.
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  Looking for words, phrases, ideology. WT vs scriptural

  by blond-moment in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have a friend, who is compiling information.

  he is not a jw, but wife is.

  looking for words, phrases, ideologies that jws live and die by that are wt teachings, but not scriptural.

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  Any "Class" mentioned by the Watchtower publications. The most notorious being the "Faithful and Discreet Slave Class" based on Matthew 24:42-46.

  The term "Governing Body" as well as the concept of the Governing Body is not mentioned or supported by scripture.

  Anything to do with the year 1914 is pure cult lunacy.

  Jesus being impaled on an upright pole vs a cross is based on intentionally taking one Bible scholars writing out of context.
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  cowboy films.

  by bigmac in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some of us uk members of a certain age really enjoy cowboy films.. what was your most favourite cowboy film of all time?.

  mine was on tv again today-----.

  ---- the magnificent seven.

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  Any western film with any of the following actors:

  John Wayne

  Lee Marvin

  Clint Eastwood

  Lee Van Cleef

  Yul Brynner

  Tombstone is one of my all time favorites movies. If it's on television, I'm watching it.
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  No answer to this one!

  by truthseeker1969 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  as many of you know my brother an elder was called on to sit in a "judicial committee" re-instatement.. the brother has in the past done all he can to prove he is repentant but this time the co was here and apparently had a few things to say to the cobe when they were discussing the process.

  the co asked why the poor guy had four re-instatement hearings and why the co had received a letter from him detailing that he "did not think he could do anymore".. anyway, long story short, the co sat in the hearing and hey presto the brother was re-instated.

  my brother and the co spoke with the brother and the co said that he had done well and was sorry that the process has taken so long and shook his hand.. now he mentioned the latest letter about confidentiality and said that the society is being hit left right and center with civil lawsuits and are scared as the have no way of defending them.

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  Just because you are a "unpaid volunteer" for an organization does not mean the organization is free from all civil liability. Remember, Jehovah's Witnesses active in the ministry are dubbed "Publishers" and document their work on a monthly basis. As such the liability goes both ways.

  In my line of work we get a lot of citizens who volunteer for us. We screen applicants for volunteer positions because our agency is liable for what they do when working for us. Likewise, if one of our volunteers is hurt while working for us they are covered by Worker's Compensation.

  I see such lawsuits being successful. This may very well be the final nail in the coffin on the Watch Tower Society. It creates a near paradoxial legal dilemma for them. A person cannot be one of Jehovah's Witness without actively preaching and peddling the publications of the Watch Tower, Bible & Tract Society. Yet, anyone who is injured while doing so is an agent of the WTB&TS and therefor must be compensated for medical expenses, lost wages, etc.
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  The cover of a 1984 WatchTower is, "apostate material"!

  by moshe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i asked a jw in an email to do a google image search of these words-.

  "1914 , the generation that will not pass away"- and guess what?.

  they emailed me back a couple days later and accused me of sharing apostate material!

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  If I may be so bold to say; I believe this is probably the best example of adding insult to injury to the Watch Tower Society and I love every bit of it.

  I remember this magazine. I remember going out in the ministry and attempting to place this magazine. For some reason I have a lot of vivid memories of 1984. It's pretty weird because I was only 10 at the time.

  One must remember, if the Watch Tower Society was a public roadway it would only have 2 street signs: One Way and No Turn. The Watch Tower Society does not publish false or inaccurate prophecies, according to them, but rather it is Truth tm at that time. Now there is "new understanding" and NuLite tm that shows an "overlapping generation" that will not pass before the end comes.

  Wow! What a truly great racket. The Watch Tower is never wrong thanks to semantics.

  Me: "What color is the sky, Watch Tower Society?"

  WTB&TS: "It's red."

  Me: "Red? It's blue. It's always been blue."

  WTB&TS: "Oh, you mean now. Yes. The sky is blue."

  Me: "You just said it was red."

  WTB&TS: "It was red at the time."

  Me: "No it wasn't. It has always been blue."

  WTB&TS: "Well, who are the only people involved in a world wide preaching work as foretold in Matthew?"

  Me: "Why am I wasting oxygen?"
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  People leave the Org but don't drop the doctrine?

  by Momma-Tossed-Me in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this deserved its own thread.

  one thing i have observed being able to speak freely to individuals now about the wtbts is that even though they fade, they hold one to all or a portion of the doctrine.. if you examine the doctrine openly and fully you will see it has as many holes in it as the org does.

  although it may appeal to you it doesn't make it sound scripturally.

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  I fit into this category at first. I was totally inactive and believed the doctrine, but not the organization. However, after coming to this website and studying on my own I became completely free from the Watch Tower after 30+ years of slavery.
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  Gutless WTS Leadership From the "Confidentiality" Letter

  by LostGeneration in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the letter leaked today on "confidentiality" had an infurating set of paragraphs on suicides, attempted suicides, and threatened suicides.

  here is the excerpt.. suicides and attempted or threatened suicides.

  20. at times, judicial committees may deal with someone who is so distraught that he attempts.

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  If someone in the congregation has committed a crime, even sexual assault of a child, do not call the police. Call the Watch Tower Legal Department. If someone in the congregation is suicidal, do not call for police and fire services. Call the Watch Tower Legal Department.

  However, if someone disrupts a meeting, call the police and have that man arrested!
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  What will happen if I get married in a church?

  by Jude Knorr in

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  You become miserable.
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  The problem with God.

  by Fernando in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  god waits until we are genuinely ready to face hard facts before he opens our minds to just how equally wrong, aberrant and dysfunctional we all are.

  mostly we humans are only ready at the lowest point in our lives - often our deathbed.

  hence all the suffering we ignorantly cause others and ourselves in the meantime.. this is the reason why (watchtower) religionists can read rom 3:22-23 without waking up to themselves and getting it: "for there is no distinction.

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  "Sin" is a manmade concept created to control the masses. Sin leads to guilt. Guilt is a powerful tool used to lead people down a particular path.

  According to the fairytale, we are all born into sin thanks to dear old great-grandpa Adam. Because of this we are all deserving of death at conception. There is nothing we can do to prevent this on our own.

  Thankfully (sarcasm) dear old YHWH sent his own son to die for us miserable, good-for-nothing sinners. All you have to do is follow his commandments as prescribe in this book written by men and you'll be a-ok. If you don't, well then to hell with you!

  Not only is sin ridiculous, but so is the concept of an entire species being doomed by the actions of one man. That is like locking up people in prison because their great-grandfather was a convicted felon and for no other reason.