Posts by allyouneedislove

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Proof Disfellowshipped For Organ Transplant, Hemodilution, Blood Fractions, etc.?

by allyouneedislove in

is there any proof whether jws were disfellowshipped for organ transplant, hemodilution, blood fractions, or any other medical procedure that was spoken of negatively in the past, but is now a concience matter?

thanks.

allyouneedislove

I have tried to research it. Nothing yet.

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Proof Disfellowshipped For Organ Transplant, Hemodilution, Blood Fractions, etc.?

by allyouneedislove in

is there any proof whether jws were disfellowshipped for organ transplant, hemodilution, blood fractions, or any other medical procedure that was spoken of negatively in the past, but is now a concience matter?

thanks.

allyouneedislove

Is there any proof whether JWs were Disfellowshipped For Organ Transplant, Hemodilution, Blood Fractions, or any other medical procedure that was spoken of negatively in the past, but is now a concience matter? Thanks

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jwfacts.com

by allyouneedislove in

i had a few comments to make regarding paul grundy's jwfact.com website.

these comments are in no way meant to defend jws, but only to point out illogical statements.

i have actually found his website to be quite informative.. .

allyouneedislove

Sorry for the small type.

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jwfacts.com

by allyouneedislove in

i had a few comments to make regarding paul grundy's jwfact.com website.

these comments are in no way meant to defend jws, but only to point out illogical statements.

i have actually found his website to be quite informative.. .

allyouneedislove

My goal was not to discredit Mr. Grundy, it was only to point out what I consider a fallacy. No matter how you try to spin it, the atrocities committed against JWs in Malawi were "due" to the wicked persons who attacked them. Mr. Grudy has a lot of informative content on his site. However, he really should correct these statements, if not only to keep the conversation logical. Furthermore, just because someone does not agree with something you say regarding the JWs does not mean they are a JW themselves or are JW defenders.

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History of Medical Treatments

by allyouneedislove in

you know what would be real helpful?

a complete history of each medical treatment that the wt has ruled against at any given time.. i have tried to do the reasearch, but it is hard.. example: the date hemoglobin started being used for medical treatment, when the injections for rh problems started becoming used, when hemophiliac factors (like viii, etc.

) started being used, etc.. it would also be great if all of those dates were backed by a solid reference.. any help?.

allyouneedislove

@AuntBee,

Thanks, but I meant providing sources that show the dates in which the MEDICAL COMMUNITY started using various "banned" treatments.

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History of Medical Treatments

by allyouneedislove in

you know what would be real helpful?

a complete history of each medical treatment that the wt has ruled against at any given time.. i have tried to do the reasearch, but it is hard.. example: the date hemoglobin started being used for medical treatment, when the injections for rh problems started becoming used, when hemophiliac factors (like viii, etc.

) started being used, etc.. it would also be great if all of those dates were backed by a solid reference.. any help?.

allyouneedislove

Here is one reference for Hemodilution

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed?term=1135750

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History of Medical Treatments

by allyouneedislove in

you know what would be real helpful?

a complete history of each medical treatment that the wt has ruled against at any given time.. i have tried to do the reasearch, but it is hard.. example: the date hemoglobin started being used for medical treatment, when the injections for rh problems started becoming used, when hemophiliac factors (like viii, etc.

) started being used, etc.. it would also be great if all of those dates were backed by a solid reference.. any help?.

allyouneedislove

Hello all,

You know what would be real helpful? A complete history of each medical treatment that the WT has ruled against at any given time.

I have tried to do the reasearch, but it is hard.

Example: The date Hemoglobin started being used for medical treatment, when the injections for Rh problems started becoming used, when Hemophiliac Factors (like VIII, etc.) started being used, etc.

It would also be great if all of those dates were backed by a solid reference.

Any help?

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Need Digital Article

by allyouneedislove in

can someone please provide a copy of the following watchtower digitally.. .

"we need to obey the faithful and discreet slave to have jehovahs approval.

" watchtower 2011 jul 15 p.24 simplified english edition .

allyouneedislove

And, since the jw.org site eventually takes down issues older than a couple months, is there a place I can get those?

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Need Digital Article

by allyouneedislove in

can someone please provide a copy of the following watchtower digitally.. .

"we need to obey the faithful and discreet slave to have jehovahs approval.

" watchtower 2011 jul 15 p.24 simplified english edition .

allyouneedislove

Can someone please provide a copy of the following Watchtower digitally.

"We need to obey the faithful and discreet slave to have Jehovah’s approval." Watchtower 2011 Jul 15 p.24 Simplified English Edition

Much thanks! :)

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jwfacts.com

by allyouneedislove in

i had a few comments to make regarding paul grundy's jwfact.com website.

these comments are in no way meant to defend jws, but only to point out illogical statements.

i have actually found his website to be quite informative.. .

allyouneedislove

I had a few comments to make regarding Paul Grundy's jwfact.com website. These comments are in no way meant to defend JWs, but only to point out illogical statements. I have actually found his website to be quite informative.

www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/malawi-mexico-oath-allegiance.html

This link discusses the Malawi atrocities committed against JWs. However, Grundy makes a few statements that are illogical and misleading.

Quote 1: "This article shows the tragedy that occurred when Malawian Witnesses were hypocritically forced to uphold a higher standard than was expected of those in Mexico...". JWs are not " forced" to do anything concerning their faith. To use the word "forced" implies that the Malawian JWs had zero choice regarding the party card decision. I understand that some may have been in fear of being disfellowshipped. However, they could have bought a party card if they desired to do so. The Governing Body or Elders were not physically holding them from doing so. I am a big proponent of people recognizing that they have free will, no matter how difficult the consequences may be that follow.

Quote 2: " Malawian Witnesses suffered unspeakable atrocities due to following the Watchtower’s illogical policy forbidding them to hold a political card in a one party state ". Once again, this statement is misleading and illogical. The atrocities were due to wicked human beings committing them. Grundy's comment here reminds me of the statement "If she wasn't wearing such provocative clothing, he would not have raped her". Each human being, regardless of whether they are part of organized religion, should be able to have free choice without the threat of violence. Grundy does go on to say " This sickening account of brutal rape, torture and murder of Jehovah’s witnesses is shocking and the people responsible cannot be excused for their actions, but this could have been prevented by purchasing a political card ". Grundy would have us believe that anyone should compromise on their personal beliefs, just so as not to become an object of hatred. This is not an idea I subscribe to.

Quote 3: " It is bad enough that the Governing Body misused the 'word of God' to set the Malawian brothers up for murder ". This statement is very questionable. Again, Grundy is minimizing the fact that every human should have the right to choose. I feel that he is implying that no Malawian JW agreed with the position on purchasing a party card.