I am sorry your wife is not well, I forgot to mention that in my post above. I know that the elders can make you sicker if that is a word. But I mean they heap undo pressure on people to make them to fess up to stuff they don't even know or don't want to discuss and the elders can't make them do that. Like are the elder police heavies or what?
I do wish her well and give her my best.
all my love
Orangefatcat.
I like you DA letter.
It's as if the Society pushes all the right buttons to make its people explode either for the good or for the bad. I can't figure out why it is that six or seven million peoples minds are so blinded by the Jehovah's witnesses Governing Body. Can't people see that they are being pushed and pulled from pillar to post?
It is so obvious that they haven't got the true religion and yet they have diluted themselves to believe that they are the equivilant of the Pope who declares himself as the Vicar of Christ. Well JW's proclaim the WTS is the channel used between man and God and have forgotton the rank of order in this manner. It is First of all our Heavenly Father , Jesus Christ and the Holy Spirit. No where does it state the WTS GB or channel. They would be hard pressed to prove that from the scriptures.
I think your letter will be like all letters the Society gets. Read, tell the elders to grant your wish and its all over.
And now your new life of freedom from oppression begins. My best to you and your wife.
love
Orangefatcat
hi posters .
yesterday morning at 4:30 i posted a thread "pointless post".. .
i then proceeded to spam my own thread repeatedly (breaking rule 5).
We all put our foot in our mouths, I have done it plenty of times and it won't be the last.
So no worries. Yes isn't it delightful we have no judical committee to beat up on you or any of us ever again. hurrah.
love
Orangefatcat.
any takers?
{in tribute to badboy, whom i admire for figuring out this cult is bs much quicker than a lot of us.
i'm a big fan of these threads!
No manna wasn't from the dust of the ground. According to one Bible commentator, Dr. Henry H. Halley says that it may have been a direct creation from God or it was the result of a natural product the miraculously multiplied. It fell with the dew each night and it looked like a corriander seed. It appeared as small flakes used to make the bread. The manna was ground in mills or beat in mortars, then boiled in pots and cakes were made of it and it was looked like a wafer and they would have honey with it. Each person was allowed a (omer) around two quarts. On the sixth day they had enough to last over the Sabbath.
The manna began one month after they left Egypt and was given daily throughout the forty years until they crossed over the Jordan to the promised land. It ceased as quickly as it appeared. (Numbers 11:6-9 Joshua 5:12)
Jesus regarded manna as forshadowing Himself ( John 6:31-58)
Therefore my conclusion is this it is not comet dust. or fairy dust or dust bunnies.
love
Orangefatcat
it's -5 with a minus 30-35 wind chill factor here so you would think the "loving elders" would cancel the sunday borefest.....nope.
just got a call...."well of course it was your choice, but there were 70 in attendance this morning!!!".
there have been meetings cancelled because of heavy snow, but give me a break going out could be dangerous.
One year when I was living in the busling metropolis of Montreal, the city was hit by a storn like they hadn't seen in a century, the year was 1971, I never seen so much snow. We also had our C.O. visit that same week. I would always get to the KH early enough to shovel the snow off the side walk and open the Kingdom Hall. Also the C.O, lived in the KH. There was so much snow and it was still storming out but I thought now one in their right mind would show up for service. But then on the other hand I showed up, well with in a short while I heard some of the pioneers coming into the hall. They all look like snowmen. I think there were six of us all together that included the CO, So we do the morning text and prayer and the CO says we will do return visits because of the weather condtions.
Which by all means made sense. So as we are doing our visits the CO says to us what does it mean to be by soundness of mind. I think one of us said to be wise, and he said yes, and now how many of you listened to the news before coming out today. I said I did and he said what did the weather forecaster say, Well we are to have this storm all day. And if we didn't have to go anywhere important we should stay at home and not drive our cars. Excellent he says. So then why are we out in this terrible weather when the weather forecaster tells us that it is extremely dangerous on the roads conditions are terrible sometimes zero visability. So if we had an accident and we were hurt or killed or we did that to someone else we would be bloodguilty before Jehovah, because we were told the condtions were dangerous and if we didn't have to be out we should stay at home.
So we all of course got the message loud and clear and he was right , the only reason I showed up was because of his visit otherwise I wouldn't have gone out in the service. So I was trying to please the CO and perhaps get injured like he said. We stopped for coffee and then he drove us all home and we all learned a valuable lesson that stormy day.
Be Balanced, and don't try and impress the Circuit Overseer
After that experience there were times I totaly refused to drive to the KH because it was storming outside. If the elders said the meetimg was a go I still refused to my life and my sons life in jeopardy, my husband use to say you drove through storms before, yes I have but not at night time and no one was going to tell me I had to, I would listen to the weather report and if the report said stay off the roads they are slippery and dangerous I refused to go no matter what the elders said or did
My life and the lives of others are involved I don't fool around.
Orangefatcat
Do what I do call alcohol express and have them deliver it to you. They charge a small fee but hey you'll have your beer and be a happy little camper or Christmas elf.
I like the idea of you being an elf.
So go and call already oye .....
Orangefatcat
a couple of hours ago when i got home from shopping the telephone rang my son answered it he said, "mom, aunt mary just called and uncle richard just passed away", i was just devasted.
it isn't sinking in.
my mind isn't somewhere else.. i believe i mentioned about him in a post a few days ago that he was just diagnosed with pulmanary fibrosis, i am in total shock, as the doctor told him he had about one to three years to live.
A couple of hours ago when I got home from shopping the telephone rang my son answered it he said, "mom, Aunt Mary just called and Uncle Richard just passed away", I was just devasted. It isn't sinking in. My mind isn't somewhere else.
I believe I mentioned about him in a post a few days ago that he was just diagnosed with Pulmanary Fibrosis, I am in total shock, as the doctor told him he had about one to three years to live. I can't believe it.
What an emptiness I feel right now. He had just got himself a brand new electric wheel chair and told his sister Mary that he was having blast on it yesterday . I can't believe it. it is not real to me. it is Christmas it isn't suppose to happen. I can't believe it .
that's the latest being circulated from our dear witness friends and relatives.
aren't we being slightly speculative? we could get in big trouble if the elders hear us talking like this.
could it be in a nano second?????????just wondering.
orangefatcat isn't it past your bedtime? No it is not it is only 3:30 in the morning. Oh right well hell I have to go to sleep so if you want want to post more you go to the computer at the desk and post all you want. I need my beauty sleep.
goodnight/goodmorning it all depends where you live
Orangefatcat party animal........
Terry
just to let everyone on here who knows my dad, that he is seriously ill, and unfortunately on life support.
he has renal and respiratory failure as a result of the quickest onset of pneumonia i have ever seen... it came on in the early hours of this morning.
he is waiting for an intensive care bed but the nearest one is 200 miles away.
Its strange that you tell us about your dad, I have been thinking about him several times this past week. His name just kept coming into my mind as I hadn't seen him post in a while. I am so sorry he is in such critical condtion. You most assuredly have my prayers for your father and your whole family. I know what you are going through and I truly feel your fear and uncertainty at this time. Not knowing what will happen is very difficult .
I don't know if you believe in God or not, but if I could make a suggestion, most hospitals have chapels and they generally are equipped with a prayer box, you just put your name on it and the name of the one who is ill and then when the minister comes to the chapel he says prayers on behalf of the persons name mentioned on the paper. You and your mom could even say a prayer or meditate in the chapel. It will make you feel better. Trust me it will. Also there is where you can cry to relieve the pressure.
Be courageous, you will have to be strong, I will pray that God gives you the strength you need. Try not to be overwhelmed as it is so easy to become that way. sometimes just going to a quiet room which most hospitals have and sit and get b ack to your center of balance and remain peacefully calm, I know it will be hard but you have to try sweetie. I will be difficutl. Your mom needs you too. Your father is a fighter, I hope that he will pull through for all of you. We all love Ian very much. A lot of good thoughts, vibes, prayers, will help.
May I suggest that you take God's hand and let him carry you through this trialsome and difficult time.
Please keep us updated. God's blessings to all of you.
love
Orangefatcat
Terry
they mean the leadership.
all of this is code for: one who is not ready to really study and accept how the leadership of jehovah's witnesses use the bible to their own self serving means.
but to be fair, jw's teach that most all of these characters refer to the leadership of jehovah's witnesses, the governing body.
What happened when you told the organization you were returning from your assignment in Africa. I mean they must have freaked out. The money they spend to send a person to another country costs mega bucks, but then on the other hand it won't suprise me if the Society has their own jet or plane.
Yes that GB has a lot of chutzpah and they are some piece of work. My father was an elder and every other word out of his mouth was the slave class is this and is that and I mean he talked about the G B as if they were more important than Christ. In fact I hardly ever heard the word Christ come out of his mouth is was always the slave class says this is what we are to do or what we are not to do and this and that he sounded like a broken record at times. I use to think to myself don't you ever stop talking about them like they are gods.
Had he given Christ as much honour as he gave the members of the GB he may have been easier to get along with. Heaven help you if you stepped out of line though, it was curtians for you. He was always hanging out at Bethel I don't know why but he seemed to me like he was sucking up to certain people in postions of responsibilty in the Bethel. Their was no living with my father. Anyway when it came to me he was cruel and mean. I guess he learned that from the GB because if couldn't have learned about it in the bible because Jesus taught love and kindness, mercy, and forgiveness these words were not part of my fathers vocabulary when it came to me.
Oh well he is gone now and I am a very happy person and a good Christian in the faith of my youth and that is all that matters to me and God and Christ Jesus.
Gilead teachings of the GB being all encompassing shows why the organization is in trouble, they have left the most important figure out of their faith that being our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I often wonder do these men think they are all they say they are. I don't think so.
Jeff, that stuff about the prophet prefiguring Rutherford and Knorr is got to be the weirdess thing I have ever heard. It is as bizarre as the Pyramid in one of the Studies of the Scriptures. It is as if the Society takes something and makes it work for there own interpetations. They are very effcient at doing that, they have had over a hundred and twenty five years of practise. And nothing suprises me anymore when it comes the GB.
Orangefatcat at times wishes she was a guy so she could face those guys at Bethel one on one.
Ofc
Terry
