There is nothing new about the UN being in the headlines for a time or Presidents mentioning peace and security. It’s just that people have short memories.
How is the existence of the UN spectacular?
per jws the un is the scarlet-colored wild beast that becomes the 8th king just before armageddon.
it is interesting to see how the un is becoming more and more an authority in the world with obama clearly the leader and supporter of globalism.
plus obama is always saying "peace and security.
There is nothing new about the UN being in the headlines for a time or Presidents mentioning peace and security. It’s just that people have short memories.
How is the existence of the UN spectacular?
i've seen this part of the agm folded in with other topics and poked around, but no really critical discussion of the implications.. .
the hermenuetics of the type/anti-type practice was a big deal to me in realizing the tatt.
i searched high and low for a rational basis for concluding that god was communicating in a type/anti-type format that wasn't special pleading and circular.
I've already added this to another thread, but I do wonder if it lends credence to the rumor in the above link: that after ramping up 1914 for the 100-year spectacular, what they are really doing is maneuvering to drop it altogether in a few years.
If this is what they are doing and this happens, say around 2017 once they’ve moved into their new HQ, I will take that as evidence two things:
(1) The leaders of the Watchtower are not mere captives of a concept…they know exactly what they are doing and employing intentional deception. It’s 100% of business and their main concern is to protect that business.
(2) The GB are not the real leaders of the Watchtower.
this is a rumor i heard back in november, it comes to me third or fourth-hand.
feel free to poke holes.
i have many doubts about this myself.
I'm not really sure how they can drop 1914 and still hold onto their alleged 1919 appointment.
morales receives 29-month sentence.
http://m.record-eagle.com/news/local_news/article_402b8194-2f32-53a5-af1e-fbe9ba9bd76b.html?mode=jqm.
by matt troutman [email protected] | posted7 days ago.
Wow, I wish I hadn't read this. :(
it is more likely to be one attack under different names.. gog of magog is not satan but a coalition of nations.
1. what do talents represent?
so who has the 5 talents?
I wonder if this lends evidence to the above link. Are they maneuvering to drop 1914 bit by bit?
this is a rumor i heard back in november, it comes to me third or fourth-hand.
feel free to poke holes.
i have many doubts about this myself.
By eliminating types and antitypes, I wonder if they are manuevering to gradually drop 1914...
ive no source for this, just personal speculation.. * there is a good case to be made that there were female deacons (ministerial servants) in the bible.. * there is a lack of qualified brothers for basic assignments such as microphones, accounts, literature.
in some cases, elders have had to do double duty because of a lack of ministerial servants or qualified brothers.. * women outnumber men in the organization.. * there is supposedly a surprising change coming "down the pipe".. perhaps the only difference between male and female ministerial servants is that women will still not be allowed to teach..
Yep, my guess was way off.
so it's been about 10 years since i have faded out and have stopped believing in the jw teachings.
since then, i have accepted jesus and have experienced an amazing tranformation in my life and have been freed from the jw prison mentally and spiritually.
a more detailed thread about my journey is here if you are interested.. anyways, my jw family lives in another state so they are unaware that i am no longer "in the truth" since i have not told them.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/277373/1/Newcomers-to-TTATT-Beware-of-New-Study-Mode
You're not a newcomer, being out for 10 years, but I think the above applies.
Your loved ones authentic selves’ are trapped by the cult identity. The best approaches to helping them can be found in Steven Hassan’s books, starting with Combatting Cult Mind Control.
Think of it this way: Imagine a person shot with a poisoned arrow. Before you can start to remove the poison, you have to remove the arrow. If you tried withdrawing the poison first, you would meet with failure. The arrow is the undue influence of the cult, the indoctrination. It isn’t easily removed.
Of course, the answer isn’t “do nothing”, but there is no silver bullet cure that works for everyone. Therefore, use extreme caution. It’s a difficult task to remove the arrow of undue influence.
it is more likely to be one attack under different names.. gog of magog is not satan but a coalition of nations.
1. what do talents represent?
so who has the 5 talents?
Wow. The talk “TYPES AND ANTI-TYPES” is a significant shift, a further distancing from the Millerite mindset. This opens the door to all type/antitype interpretations, even Nebuchadnezzar’s tree dream.
so it's rumored started by one member that there is a new pioneer rank called basic pioneer, announced at annual meeting.
can anyone verify this is true?
everything else presented at the meeting has been verified except this.
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