Yes..definitely read Franz. Just got finished with the chapter where he speaks of the Mexico, Malawi incidents. Talk about Double standards!!!
out4good3
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What are your thoughts on writing DA letters?
by mamashel inas most of you know, i have been inactive for about 2 1/2 yrs and completely out for about 7 months.
i am debating on wether or not to write a letter of da to the org or not.
in some ways i just want closure, and on the other hand i dont want to play by their rules.
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Comments You Will Not Hear At The 10-13-02 WTS
by blondie inwatchtower study article for the week of october 7-13, 2002.
"never has another man spoken like this"luke 4:22. introduction.
this is the 3rd of 4 articles devoted to the way jesus taught.
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out4good3
The few elder wives I know aren't worth getting out of your clothes for........
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Jay Leno on Jay Dubyas
by Nathan Natas injay leno: "this past friday, six terror suspects were arrested in a suburban neighborhood in portland.
that's scary, isn't it?
remember when the only terrorists in the suburbs were like amway or jehovah witnesses?
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out4good3
Yeah
I saw that also.
My wife was livid that he's make fun of JW being eaten by Hannibal Lecter.
I was LMAO.
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The Problem Around Here is
by out4good3 inthat some people seem to think they are the authority on everything and feel like they should always get the last word.
i try not to get involved in the flaming that goes on around here by checking my ego at the door and thats not the reason for this post anyway, but it's my experience that all of, without exception, jw are like this.
the perceived arrogance that they alone are in possession of the only truth seems to compell them to keep an argument going even when they are clearly on the losing side so that they can be sure to get the last word in.
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out4good3
Know this - soon the wicked man will be destroyed. A house divided against itself cannot stand. You obviously checked your brains in at the door along with your ego. What did you expect apostates to be like? Paragons of virtue and complaisity? The Watchtower was right when it likened apostate sites and literature to pornography. You're so hooked on it you can't quit looking at it, but you make the pretense of being disturbed by what, in reality, the Faithful Slave has warned against for decades now.
Does anybody else in here smell that.....
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The Problem Around Here is
by out4good3 inthat some people seem to think they are the authority on everything and feel like they should always get the last word.
i try not to get involved in the flaming that goes on around here by checking my ego at the door and thats not the reason for this post anyway, but it's my experience that all of, without exception, jw are like this.
the perceived arrogance that they alone are in possession of the only truth seems to compell them to keep an argument going even when they are clearly on the losing side so that they can be sure to get the last word in.
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out4good3
that some people seem to think they are the authority on everything and feel like they should always get the last word. I try not to get involved in the flaming that goes on around here by checking my ego at the door and thats not the reason for this post anyway, but it's my experience that all of, without exception, JW are like this. The perceived arrogance that they alone are in possession of the only truth seems to compell them to keep an argument going even when they are clearly on the losing side so that they can be sure to get the last word in.
Perhaps this is why the flame wars around here seem to be so long and protracted driving away members who would otherwise positively contribute to the board.
With that in mind I ask the board, do you sometimes feel like you just have to be the whose right.....the one who has to have the last word. Further, do you think this is a residual attitude left over from being members of the borg subject to the authority of the WT heirarchy who consistently demonstrated the same attitude?
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THEOCRATIC TREASON PRT. 2
by paulie34 inthis is windrider,.
this will probably be my last post.
there is no reason any longer to use my time in this forum to present any research i have made that may be able to save lives.
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out4good3
Windrider
It is my belief that revolutions don't happen overnight nor is there a bright light shown on a mass of people giving them the same idea and the will to act at the same time. Every idea of change starts with one person with a vision or agenda, and it usually snowballs from there. Every march I've seen against the Society before 9/27 has been sporadic at best, consisting of a few people at conventions who individually can be seen as nothing more than troublemakers to be ignored by the R\F members. Even though the march in Brooklyn was small it made a profound statement whose future repercussions can now only be guessed. The organized march by JW's and non-Jw's together against the WT was, even though I couldn't attend, nothing short of spectacular even if only 125 people showed up. At the rate newbies are showing up on this and other forums daily coupled with the monthly apostofests, the questioning of the authority of the WT is sure to grow. The WT is on the ropes now, reeling from scandal after scandal and from one failed prophecy after another. Thier supposed growth is nothing more than a pipe dream to keep the R\F members thinking that they have God's approval. To keep and recruit new members in developed countries where their financial support is they'll be forced to change whether they want to or not. Your research, and further, everyones support, however small, contributes to their hopefully changing for the better.
I appreciate the efforts of you, hawkaw, amazing, and every poster who shares their research both here and on other boards. I've learned more about the org in the last nine months I've been here than of the whole year and a half that I studied and the two years I was in their grasp till my conscious compelled me to leave. But I've come to realize that although there seems to be contests on who can piss the farthest here, it is much the same all over the world and most especially in "Jehovah Loving Organization". All you have to do is strike a balance between presenting the factual information that continues to not only help the few who post and engage in these contests, but also the thousands who lurk, and actively ignore the flame wars. That's what I do. Hopefully you'll choose to do the same.
JAFO
(Just another fu***** opinion)
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Causing Divisions in my Family - HEHE
by TTBoy inwell no response from my uncle yet in nc on the 30 some pages of news articles on child abuse, undisfellowshiped's 4 sceneros of what happens with child abuse in the borg, jw.org "former members are not shunned", and meriam websters definations of desenter and aopstate.
i sent it friday...maybe today...it's wednesday.
if anyone is interested - using my own research and others i have put together a really nice 40 page un scandal piece.
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out4good3
didn't get it. It seemed to come down as a link to a folder on your harddrive.
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Causing Divisions in my Family - HEHE
by TTBoy inwell no response from my uncle yet in nc on the 30 some pages of news articles on child abuse, undisfellowshiped's 4 sceneros of what happens with child abuse in the borg, jw.org "former members are not shunned", and meriam websters definations of desenter and aopstate.
i sent it friday...maybe today...it's wednesday.
if anyone is interested - using my own research and others i have put together a really nice 40 page un scandal piece.
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out4good3
I'd be interested in it too.
Mail to [email protected].
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Would You Now Feel Uncomfortable Taking Blood?
by minimus innow that you know about the truth of the blood doctrine, would you feel, even a little bit uncomfortable agreeing to take a blood transfusion?
btw, my mother asked me if i would still honor her wishes for refusal of blood.
i told her that even though my view has changed, i would respect her decision, even if i felt that it was wrong.
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out4good3
Not at the risk of dying.
but I'd be honor bound to respect my wife's wishes.
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welcome to me, another newbie
by fluttergirl2 inhello all.. i've visited here a time or two but this is the first time i've posted.
been out for five years now.
left because i realized i was expected to be perfect and that just wasn't gonna happen.
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out4good3
I think it was she who said she appropriately shunned her mom and step-dad after they left.
It's her real dad whose in full shun mode.