I agree Blondie! By the way, what part of Argentina are you from?
Outaservice
i've always tried to teach my kids to follow aesop's fable of the 'sun and the wind', i.e.
try the gentle persuasion method for achieving your goals rather than head on aggression.
however as with most things in life there is a time and place for both.
I agree Blondie! By the way, what part of Argentina are you from?
Outaservice
i often wonder if my old witness friends from my past are still in the 'truth' (god i hope not)?
i know this site is pretty popular amongst ex-witnesses.
and since most of us have 'fake names'...we could be talking to someone that we already know.
I think that a lot of people use the word 'apostate' and 'in the TRUTH' quite often when it really dosen't apply!
An ex-JW is not an 'apostate' (if he still accepts and believes in Christ) but more likely the Governing Body is 'apostate'.
And, a person in the Watchtower Organization is NOT in the TRUTH! They are into lies! Not that they are necessarily bad people, just duped!
But it is so hard not to use these expressions after being so 'brain washed' with them for so many years! But lets try not to.
Outaservice (but still in the truth)
yes this orangefatcat has changed to another spiritual path.
i was raised in the anglican church as a child i attended regualary with my beloved grandma.
she passed away in 1992, and when i left the organization in 1999 i had thoughts of perhaps going back to that way of faith.
You made a good decision in my opinion and I hope you are blessed beyond what you could ever expect.
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i think as the prices of gas, health care, housing and other things continue to rise, the jw without a great education will struggle to put much in the contribution box.
it got me to thinking, how much did my family put in the contribution box at the kingdom hall.
this is what i estimate for the final 5 years i went 1994-1999.... $10.00 per week for about 5 years.
I PUT IN QUITE A FEW 'ABE LINCOLNS' AND THEY WERN'T THE ONES ON THE FIVE DOLLAR BILL!
OUTASERVICE
after reading the thread on mickey spillane's memorial service it sounded like the jws are changing their funeral program.
or was this because of spillane's celebrity status?
in the past the witness funeral outline told the elder conducting the memorial service not eulogize the deceased, but to promote watchtower doctrines.
I don't know about 'Memorial' services but I do know that the 'Wedding & Funeral' outline is exactly the same!
Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to observe the _____________death or wedding (insert applicable wording here)....etc....etc...
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i know we've had a few threads about no windows in the kingsom hall.
well, some other folks got curious out there as well: .
http://www.yforum.com/welcome1.html.
My mother said they had no windows because it would be easier to 'gas' the people if they decided to!
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to name a few that are popular with my old congregation.... .
dunkin' donuts.
quik chek.
Coffee heck! We had full breakfasts with bacon, eggs, potatos, etc. Then after that we visited all the used car lots we could find and then maybe one 'call' to stop our time!
Outaservice
are wedding rings pagan?
i want to use this, if its correct.
if they are pagan, how pagan are they?
I guess if you wanted to get technical, anything 'pre-Christian' could be considered 'pagan'!
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i cant email everyone ....dont have time.
my brother committed suicide.... have to be out of town for awhile.. purps
My sympathy to you. Was he by chance taking any antidepressants? The are linked to a lot of suicides!
Outaservice
i'v been lurking for a few months, but something jakes said about the 2005 wt caused me to think about what a brother said one sunday in one of the very last talks i attended in 2005. he said, "you have to believe what the society says, even if the bible doesn't say it, because after all, they are your brothers".
i was thinking about going back at the time, but that statement really floored me.. that statement along with the unfair way i was treated has caused me not to go back to the meetings.
but even so, i am still pretty much confused, as i still believe they have more truth than other religions.
Welcome. Just realize you're carrying a lot of Watchtower 'baggage' yet but the more you learn and research, you will come to realize that 'more truth' than anyone else is really a 'myth'. But it takes time and some effort to sort all that stuff out. It's like a picture puzzle. At first you cannot see the whole picture, but the more pieces that you put in, the clearer it becomes.
Tell us your story someday.
Outaservice (former Elder for many years)