Posts by outnfree

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sister says prayer with elders !!!!!

by jurs in

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this friday the elders are coming over to discuss my da letter.

i keep studying and thinking of what i want to say.

i'm sure they'll open with a prayer.

outnfree

Farkel,

In my case, the P.O. asked me to meet with the elders at the KH. The entire elder body met first (I had involved them all), and the result was that three of them met with me and asked me to "rescind my DA letter for a month" while they tried to shepherd me. So apparently, it is now an accepted thing to try to "readjust" a DA'd one. (WT phraseology! )

Jurs,

As you can see, "readjustment" will likely be the focus of their meeting with you (note that the P.O. first wanted to visit me at my home with another brother, but it was not convenient for me, so the venue changed to the KH). If you should be weak (as I was) and actually bow to theocracy and give them their month, they may do what my local elders did: suggest MORE Bible reading, more studying, more prayer, and more meeting attendance! And if you continue to have questions you will be "unruly." In my case, I felt that they were actually setting me up to be more than "marked" as "weak", they were setting me up to be disfellowshipped for apostasy. I truly felt that they would have preferred to PUT ME OUT rather than my taking the initiative to WALK AWAY. Regaining me was NOT their motive if I would be around with questions that made THEM uncomfortable!

You will certainly do whatever seems best FOR YOU! And, as Simon said, we will be battling alongside you in spirit.

But Gopher is right to caution you to reflect on exactly what it is YOU wish to accomplish at your Friday meeting, and then to proceed accordingly.

Best wishes for the best possible outcome, jurs!

outnfree

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Some of them want to abuse you...

by Suzis Ghost in

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http://www.loc.gov/copyright/circs/circ1.html#wwp.

http://www.loc.gov/copyright/title17/.

http://www.loc.gov/copyright/reports/studies/dmca/dmca_study.html.

outnfree

Suzi,

I have never engaged in "conversation" with you. I have NO IDEA what the conflagration was about. But I DO know that I have you to thank for putting that tune in my head ALL DAY LONG now!

The recipe looks great, and I'm about to print it out, so I guess I have you AND AlanF to thank for that.

I second the various motions that you should feel as free as anyone to post here, but respect your decision to move along if you wish.

outnfree

25

Introduce My Self

by Treborr Jones in

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i would like to introduce myself.

i do not want to be in here under false pretenses.

my name is robert howard.

outnfree

Hey! I object, Robert!

.... to the length of your website! Which is way too long and chock full of things for me to be able to digest before I need to go eat my dinner!

Welcome to the board! It's a great place to hang out.

outnfree

17

Hi all!

by Billygoat in

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i have been out for almost 10 years now.

i've been on the net almost non-stop for the last several days.

surprising myself on an hourly basis by the testimonies of other xjw that are out here.

outnfree

Welcome to the Board, billygoat!

I'm only out for 3 months (and 5 days! ), but I have found this board to be a godsend!

I have/had an unbeliever for a mate, who never, ever wanted to discuss religion and does not want to discuss it any more now that I have left! He is happy that I am out, but he doesn't want to hear a word about what I've discovered. And my children, who WERE raised pretty much as Witnesses, -- well, their eyes pretty much glaze over at most of what I relate to them about my research and the stories on this board. They are just relieved to be done with it. But I need MORE to deal with the loss, and I need to DO more to help others (like the silentlambs), so I am very, very happy with the insights gleaned and the friendships made here at j-w.com.

I wish the same joy and release for you!

outnfree

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Please Respond To Survey! 25 more needed please.

by Big Jim in

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it seems like to me the majority of people who are in the truth, are were in the truth was a result of either a family member are a friend witnessing to them and not many seem to have been found in the door to door work.. from my years of associating with the borg i cannot recall many coming in the truth from the door to door work.. how were you sucked in?

for me it was my aunt who has now even though i am not disfellowshipped decided to write me out of her will to the tune of about $150,000.00 (maybe i should hang around a couple more years)dont think i will.. please respond .

thanks.

outnfree

My brother-in-law was witnessed to by a co-worker, and got my sister interested. My sister studied but never got baptized. Before she stopped studying, however, she dragged me along to a convention to help with her two little toddlers. I enjoyed the program. I had a study. I left off studying before being baptized myself, but still decided that the JWs were the only ones who made sense (I was already a non-Trinitarian, so that was a biggie with me). I met my husband and shelved the religion (he was a divorced Catholic) resigning myself to dying at Armageddon. (It was 1974.) Hey! At least I wasn't going to burn in eternal hellfire! LOL But when I had my first child in 1984, I could not condemn her to death, too. So I restarted a study out of fear, really. Took me another four years to get baptized, though.

outnfree

17

How Many Ways Can You Spell Hypocrit?

by ros in

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interesting profile in the 2/15/2000 watchtower (pp.26-29) praising a 17th-century orthodox church patriarch who was murdered and thrown to the sharks for attempting to effect reform in his church.

quote:.

cyril lucaris (b.

outnfree

Ros,

I have to laugh at myself on this one. Just over 1-1/2 years ago I read this very article with only the thought about how interesting it was that the Patriarch had fought for some "correct" Bible truths...

Ruefully looking back, I can see that the Watch Tower counted on just that reaction!

outnfree

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How Many Ways Can You Spell Hypocrit?

by ros in

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interesting profile in the 2/15/2000 watchtower (pp.26-29) praising a 17th-century orthodox church patriarch who was murdered and thrown to the sharks for attempting to effect reform in his church.

quote:.

cyril lucaris (b.

outnfree

And don't forget

JUDICIAL COMMITTEE
CHRISTIAN CONGREGATION OF JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES
RELIGIOUS ORDER OF JEHOVAH'S CHRISTIAN WITNESSES
JEHOVAH'S LOVING CHRISTIAN BROTHERHOOD

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New Cult Tactic?

by Big Jim in

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my daughter was babtised at the houston disrtict assembly over the weekend so i was more or less forced to make that one day attendace.. there was a pioneer sister who was explaining how she was getting so many japanese and phillopino bible studys.. she said that her and her husband took some foreign language classes so they could at least communicate with these people a little.. here is what they do; they find these ones that speak very little english and they tell them they are going to help them to speak english by studying the bible with them.. that really blew me away when i heard that.. should it have?

outnfree

Big Jim,

I remember reading about this tactic before -- maybe in a magazine?

Anyway, the added benefit to the Asian immigrant is that they become familiar with the Bible, an important influence on Western society, and usually a book with which they are not familiar.

outnfree

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Marley Cole, a Watchtower Stooge?

by JAVA in

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thanks to wasasister, i just received a copy of jehovah's witnesses, the new world society, by marley cole, vantage press, ny, 1955 printing date.

as some of you know, cole wrote this book under the pretence that he was only interested in writing about the jws, and didn't identify himself as a jw.

note what the jacket cover says about him:.