Posts by ozziepost

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

ozziepost

Scholar

i take your point although not adopting the JW interpretation.

The big difference must be on the JW teaching of “presence” (parousia) and “coming”. JWs teach that Christ is already present invisibly and the faithful have to accept this unprovable teaching, just as they must accept that an invisible Christ appointed eight men to control the JW organisation which they claim Christ controls. No evidence for any of that - it’s unprovable..

The teaching of Christ’s Return is part of mainstream christian beliefs and I know that in Anglican churches in Sydney public prayers include the desire to witness that and soon.

The churches teach the need to keep on the watch, preparedness, but all without the pressure to keep in servitude found in the JW world.

Cheers,

Ozzie 🍷

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

ozziepost

Scholar

Not wishing to try and get the last word, can I instead pose this question in all sincerity.

if the year 1914 is so important eschatologically, what do you think it heralded?

And what does that mean for christians?

That’s a “Dorothy Dixer” I guess. 🙂

Cheers,

Ozzie 🍷

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

ozziepost

Fisherman

owyergoin? 👋

The discrepancy or otherwise in the Gentile Times is a side-alley for me, despite me highlighting it over the years with Scholar.

The Gentile Times may be of interest to those of the end Times variety but not to mainstream Christianity- they’ve got it sorted.

However, for end Timers it’s relevant to point out and especially to Dubs the seeming discrepancy in their own teaching.

Cheers,

Ozzie 🍷

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

ozziepost

Good point Simon. I'm not religious anymore but I really despise people like Lloyd who keep pushing the atheist agenda. I don't believe in god, so what? Why should I tell people who are religious that they should stop believing?

i like your point Chinapomo

i got really turned off Lloyd Evans channel because he presents a JW or atheism choice.

People leave for all sorts of reasons but some like Mrs Ozzie and I leave for theological reasons i.e. we came to understand we were christian but we came to see the Borg wasn’t the “true christian” path it claimed.

I sometimes wonder whether Lloyd Evans has ever really left the Borg. His ‘modus operandi’ so imitates his way back in his Borg days. He can criticise the GB all he likes but that doesn’t mean so much theologically.

Oh well, just surmising……

Cheers,

Ozzie 🍷

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Jehovah’s witnesses and compulsory voting in Australia.

by Longlivetherenegades in

what do jehovah’s witnesses do during election period in australia?

i learnt voting is compulsory in australia and those who choose not to vote are fined.

do jehovah’s witnesses pay such fines?.

ozziepost

Dubs in Australia are issued a failure to vote notice after an election and required to respond by either paying a fine or stating their reason for not voting. They are instructed to complete a reason on the form which usually goes along the lines of having given their allegiance to Christ’s Kingdom and being neutral to human affairs.

They post their forms back to the Electoral Commission and no more is heard.

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

ozziepost

Scholar

one last time (for old times sake 🙃)

After that the war in heaven broke out and Satan was ousted out of heaven to caiuse much trouble on earth this was visibley manifest by the Great War followed by other troubles since 1914 which began the parousia with all of its signs right up to the present.
The Bible does not mention the Great War as a specific event but we see by looking back in modern history that the Great War certainly is consistent with the fulfilment of prophecy.

All history books give July as the start date. What more is needed?

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

ozziepost

@inbetween

Exactly right, that was my point but I don’t think our learned friend will be enlightened.

I seem to recall this argument has been played out before. 🤨

Time for a shiraz,

Cheers,

Ozzie 🍷

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How far do we get away from 1914

by PimoElder in

how far do we get away from 1914 before they have a new light and admit it was all wrong?.

they cling to the old theory of the 77 week prophecy from the wrong date that jerusalem was destroyed .

with the overlapping generations nonsense still we are getting too far away from 1914. what will they say if we get to the 2030s and they still cling to 1914?.

ozziepost

Scholar dear chap,

When you write this:

the end of the Gentile Times as a definite date of October, 1914 CE

It reminds me of a problem I always had in Witness theology. You see if the Gentile Times ended in October and Satan was cast out to forment trouble for the earth as evidenced by global war, how come WW1 started on

28 July 1914

Cheers,

Ozzie 🍷

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

ozziepost

he's quibbling over whether he works one or two days a month.

Really ??

whether it’s one or two days, it’s still a nice little earner!

What would he do without the Witchtower?

Cheers,

Ozzie 🍷

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My story

by PimoElder in

hi everyone i’m a pimo elder ex bethelite and pioneer who has been having doubts for many years.

as of late i’ve come to have even more doubts mainly due to the gb pushing the vaccines and acting like salesman for big pharma companies .

i will never take these vaccines even if it meant i couldn’t go to the hall as was previously said but the gb have done a big u turn on this now.

ozziepost

m staying in as I have many good friends and I love the congregation

Look you could get that at any club or association.

Isn’t the important thing to be true to yourself or as punkofnice put it, to be authentic.

What is it you actually believe?, speak to that at the hall. You owe it to the “good friends” you have there.