hello, i know you must wonder, but here is the point:.
*** w88 9/1 20 a pioneer partnership for life ***.
in 1913, when i was 17, i traveled to london for a sight-seeing vacation.
G'day Mac,
Is it possible to have two hopes? If not, then anyone being baptized before the 1935 cut-off date would have to be of the anointed, irrespective of age.
i suppose it could be pointed out that Jesus wanted the little children to come to him, didn't he?
Cheers,
Ozzie
hello, redhorsewoman,.
i was reading the long post of 2nd may 2000, about donations, and i could not .
help myself to send you this information concerning your quote:.
G'day ZazuWitts and Rollercoaster,
When I was a uni student I often used to question C.O.'s over the matter of the Society investing. I couldn't understand them not investing.
Now that I am older and wiser, I know for a fact that the Society routinely makes investments. Please don't ask me how I know, at this stage! But be assured they do.
Ozzie (of the secret investors class)
i'm 18 and my boyfriend is 16 and an active jw.i'm a baptist and very stong in my belief and love of god.my boyfriend and i haven't been together that long but were very serious and plan on getting married (when the time is right).we both know that we have no intentions of raising our children jw but as baptist and he tells me that he wants to get out of jw but right now its very hard for him because he still lives with his parents and his mother and oldest sister are very active jw.and i understand all that its just that because i love him so much i want to understand about his life and the way he was raised and what he was raised to believe but hes made it very clear that he doesnt want to explain it or talk about it hes told me some stuff but very little.i'm just wondering about their beliefs and what the jw's have to say about us dating and just any information anyone can provide!!!
!thank-you very much!!!!
!
jst2laws: welcome, brother, to this Home, Sweet, Home. You will probably find more sincere and heartfelt concern for people here than I ever did from my fellow elders. I sympathise with you that you feel you do care for the brothers and sisters. So did I. I too had sleepless nights many times. The fact is, though, that if the basic theology is wrong, nothing you can do will stop your brothers and sisters being hurst. Until the elders face up to, and are instructed to, view themselves as sinners needing forgiveness, you will always have a Pharisee class IMHO. My conclusion after serving 35 years as an elder and in recent years at Bethel is that our fellow elders do not view themselves as sinners. Please read the account at Luke 7:36-50. Note especially verse 47: "By virtue of this, I tell you, her sins, many though they are, are forgiven, because she loved much; but he who is forgiven little, loves little." Please take this to heart. If you applied this, you would not be concerned with applying 'rules' or ks91, nor, in your heart, could you defend a man-made system that hurts so many.
DixieDarlin: Welcome to you, kid! Glad to have ya here. Many will say that you're too young. IMHO it's too late for that. I know, I was there too, many years ago. I loved her, she loved me, and we made whooppee till we were old and grey. Good luck to ya! But if you were my daughter I'd be concerned!!! Enjoy your visits here. We're mostly friendly. Simon, the host, is very generous.
Cheers,
Ozzie
hello, redhorsewoman,.
i was reading the long post of 2nd may 2000, about donations, and i could not .
help myself to send you this information concerning your quote:.
Thanks for the info, Mac,
BTW what does b&S mean in your subject title? Here in the magical land of Oz it means 'Bachelor and Spinster'
Yours in curiosity,
Ozzie (Cheshire cat class)
do they really believe in armaggeddon?.
i thought i would kick of my prescence here by starting a thread!.
do the governing body really believe that armaggeddon is just around the corner?.
G'day Rick (Mr Angry),
Welcome here to our Home Sweet Home where discussions are free and without recriminations (well, not too many!).
The situation with the F&DS teaching the nearness of the end is a bit like saying one thing from one side of the mouth, and another from the other side,
On one side they seem to have adopted the traditional Christian belief in waiting on the Lord's Return. "Exercise patience, therefore, brothers, until the presence of the Lord."(James 5:7)
On the other side of the mouth they proclaim the nearness of the end, and that the time remaining is short.
So, it's like wanting to have your cake and eat it too!
"A fountain does not cause the sweet and the bitter to bubble out of the same opening, does it?" (James 3:11)
Ozzie
from http://www.greatcrowd.com/159ubb/forum3/html/000147.html.
i'm not the least bit afraid of being left alone, for jehovah is the one who eventually 'satisfies the desire of every living thing', and if i don't live that belief, i don't live for the kingdom.. the two things i am most afraid of is not qualifying to get there (new system) to see that promise come true, or losing sight of that promise by impatiently putting trust in my own ability to find the right guy now.. .
tr
G'day TR,
That quotation is a "classic" of the JW frame of mind.
A JW will only ever have the hope of salvation till the day they die.
And a classic example of salvation by works, instead of by faith. A JW cannot understand that salvation comes from Jehovah's undeserved kindness (grace), not by anything we have done to deserve it. Whilst ever they fail to understand that, they are prisoners of "the Law".
Ozzie (free in Christ class)
this is sort of a take-off of the "what should the wt do" thread.. i need to get together a board of directors and elect a president and officers.
we need to figure out a doctrine, a manifesto, and a set of disciplinary rules.
we need to figure out a way to fund our new movement.
Well, it's obvious what job I'll get. I reckon I'm a 'shoe-in" for being appointed POSTmaster.
Now the first thing I'll do is get it written into the elders' (well, we need them, don't we?) Green Books that you are not allowed to have mail boxes that have those little flags on, that you yanks like to have. Nope, true believers will not be influenced to have phallic symbols, so they're out!
Affectionately yours,
Ozzie (Postmaster class)
it is my opinion that the following quotes by the wtbs.
publications, cannot co-exist , one eliminates the other, and i do.
believe that this is a another proof of "history rewritten" ..... orwellian way ...to control the past, the present and the.... future.
G'day Mac,
I think the answer is much simpler than we have imagined.
Brother xxxxxxxx of the Writing Department wrote page 757
whereas
Sister xxxxxxxxx, the wife of the brother shown above told him what he should have written, and he included that when he got to page 760.
Simple, really. 8&>
great board.
wonderful to see englishman, and norm in here, and my all.
time favorite : farkel the great.. but, please, who can tell me why the posts seem to.
G'day Celia and welcome to our Home, Sweet, Home.
Simon has assembled a very pleasant and user-friendly place for us to meet and chat.
Another feature I like particularly is that you are able to view all the posts on a topic at once. Also when responding to a post, you are able to view a brief synopsis of all posts on that particular topic, the most recent being on top. Great stuff, Simon!!
Cheers,
Ozzie
the following idiocy may be found at http://www.cinternet.net/~rsmith/pages/illlink4.htm.
angels and the preaching work.
angels are busy today as before (acts 8: 26; rev.
You would think there'd be a more efficient way of angels supervising the witnessing work, wouldn't you?
If they, as spirits, are bound by this material world, why are we all duplicating the same actions/amount of time spent, etc?
In this earthly realm we would call this work duplication and make one of the workers redundant!
Cheers,
Ozzie
