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  According to today's JW standards, would Jesus be considered an apostate or opposer?

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  what rules in the elder's manual would jesus be charged with if he were here today?

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  What rules in the Elder's manual would Jesus be charged with if He were here today?
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  Jehovah's Witnesses: Is it Christian or Unchristian for men to wear makeup at the Kingdom Hall?

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  jehovah's witnesses on ya: does prince wear make-up?.

  if he does, what does jah say about that?

  does the bible make it implicit or explicit in regards to men wearing make-up?

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  Jehovah's Witnesses on YA: does Prince wear make-up?

  If he does, what does Jah say about that? Does the Bible make it implicit or explicit in regards to men wearing make-up? If Prince wears make-up, should he be reproved?
  
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  Responder states: "As for your comment about wearing make-up, that was in the Mosaic Law (which Christians aren't under, but instead their conscience), & was likely talking about looking feminine for immoral purposes".
  
  Men wearing make-up appeals to vanity. Human beings naturally want to be accepted by the world around them. But what does God say about this? "Love not the world, neither the things that are in the world. If any man love the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world" (I John 2:15-16)
  
  It is IMPLIED in the New Testament by Paul himself that it is a sin for men to wear make-up.

  Responder states,"you're mentioning scriptural PRINCIPLES. I happen to agree wih them, but that doesn't mean it would be a good idea to enforce matters of conscience"

  JWs, is this particular JW responder promoting homosexual tendencies within your sect?

  JW responder on YA states-"Again, you're mentioning scriptural PRINCIPLES. I happen to agree with them, but that doesn't mean it would be a good idea to enforce matters of conscience. That seem to be a very dogmatic & un-christian idea of yours."

  http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;...
  
  So it is a matter of conscience for men to either wear makeup or not around Jehovah's Witnesses at the Kingdom Hall? If that's tolerated, are they also allowed to dress in drag?
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  Did Jesus participate in judicial committee hearings?

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  did jesus condone such hearings?.

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  Did Jesus condone such hearings?
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  In the somewhat newly found (2000) tablet called "Gabriel's Vision", did Gabriel (possibly an Archangel) raise Simon from the dead?

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  the tablet has many key words missing and it is assumed by many scholars that gabriel may be the archangel mentioned here.

  did gabriel raise simon from the dead as described within this tablet?

  if this gabriel (on the tablet) were the archangel as mentioned in the book of enoch as well as other parabiblical literature, how does this pose a problem for those who believe archangels are not able to resurrect people from the dead?

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  Thank you Leolaia. You are so very informative and knowledgeable!!!
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  In the somewhat newly found (2000) tablet called "Gabriel's Vision", did Gabriel (possibly an Archangel) raise Simon from the dead?

  by I_love_Jeff in

  1. watchtower
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  the tablet has many key words missing and it is assumed by many scholars that gabriel may be the archangel mentioned here.

  did gabriel raise simon from the dead as described within this tablet?

  if this gabriel (on the tablet) were the archangel as mentioned in the book of enoch as well as other parabiblical literature, how does this pose a problem for those who believe archangels are not able to resurrect people from the dead?

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  What? nope
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  In the somewhat newly found (2000) tablet called "Gabriel's Vision", did Gabriel (possibly an Archangel) raise Simon from the dead?

  by I_love_Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the tablet has many key words missing and it is assumed by many scholars that gabriel may be the archangel mentioned here.

  did gabriel raise simon from the dead as described within this tablet?

  if this gabriel (on the tablet) were the archangel as mentioned in the book of enoch as well as other parabiblical literature, how does this pose a problem for those who believe archangels are not able to resurrect people from the dead?

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  The tablet has many key words missing and it is assumed by many scholars that Gabriel may be the Archangel mentioned here. Did Gabriel raise Simon from the dead as described within this tablet? If this Gabriel (on the tablet) were the Archangel as mentioned in the Book of Enoch as well as other parabiblical literature, how does this pose a problem for those who believe archangels are not able to resurrect people from the dead?
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  Luke 16:19-31 Sheol/Hades/Hell? literal vs. metaphor

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  jehovah's witnesses say this is just a parable and that there is no eternal punishment.

  for me, i do not believe in eternal punishment even though there is a lot of information in the bible which strongly favors eternal damnation: .

  the bible refers to the fate of the unsaved with such fearful words as the following: .

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  "Allegory however is not justified by the text itself, which contains a narrative parable (quite different from similitude parables) that contrasts the moral choices made by different characters."

  @ Leo- forgive my ignorance but what do you mean by this? Thank you!
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  Luke 16:19-31 Sheol/Hades/Hell? literal vs. metaphor

  by I_love_Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jehovah's witnesses say this is just a parable and that there is no eternal punishment.

  for me, i do not believe in eternal punishment even though there is a lot of information in the bible which strongly favors eternal damnation: .

  the bible refers to the fate of the unsaved with such fearful words as the following: .

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  Jehovah's Witnesses say this is just a parable and that there is no eternal punishment. For me, I do not believe in eternal punishment even though there is a lot of information in the Bible which strongly favors eternal damnation:

  The Bible refers to the fate of the unsaved with such fearful words as the following:
  • "Shame and everlasting contempt" (Daniel 12:2)
  • "Everlasting punishment" (Mathew 25:46)
  • "Weeping and gnashing of teeth" (Matthew 24:51)
  • "Fire unquenchable" (Luke 3:17)
  • "Indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish" (Romans 2:8,9)
  • "Everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord" (2 Thessalonians 1:9)
  • "Eternal fire...the blackness of darkness for ever" (Jude 7,13)

  My question has to do with the parable in Luke 16:19-31 Sheol, Hades, Hell

  If this is just a parable, what percentage of it is true in regards to eternal punishment? I understand that the parable is simply exposing the falsehood of the Pharisees. If Jesus discusses Sheol, would that portion of the parable not necessarily be JUST a parable but literal?
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  Luke 16:19-31 Partially metaphorical. How much of the parable is scripturally true Sheol/Hades/Hell?

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  jehovah's witnesses state there is only "soul sleep" and that jesus' parable, rich man and his brothers who did not listen to moses and the prophets (vv.

  29-31), represent the pharisees.

  either the jehovah's witnesses' jesus made a mistake or the watchtower made a huge error.

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  "Get back jojo"
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  Luke 16:19-31 Partially metaphorical. How much of the parable is scripturally true Sheol/Hades/Hell?

  by I_love_Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  jehovah's witnesses state there is only "soul sleep" and that jesus' parable, rich man and his brothers who did not listen to moses and the prophets (vv.

  29-31), represent the pharisees.

  either the jehovah's witnesses' jesus made a mistake or the watchtower made a huge error.

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  Jehovah's Witnesses state there is only "soul sleep" and that Jesus' parable, rich man and his brothers who did not listen to Moses and the prophets (vv. 29-31), represent the Pharisees.

  Either the Jehovah's Witnesses' Jesus made a mistake or The Watchtower made a huge error. He wasn't asleep in the grave; he was in a place of "torment." If hell is a place of knowing nothing or a reference to the grave into which we go at death, Jesus' statements about sheol make no sense. Even though it is a metaphor, the story does not add up correctly within the JW doctrine. In my understanding, this may very well be partially metaphorical and rest being true (hell). The part that is true is that of eternal punishment. Let's take a look at some passages to back up the meaning of Hades. He said that if your hand, foot, or eye causes you to sin, it would be better to remove it than to "go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: where their worm dies not, and the fire is not quenched" (Mark 9:43-48).

  The Bible refers to the fate of the unsaved with such fearful words as the following:
  • "Shame and everlasting contempt" (Daniel 12:2)
  • "Everlasting punishment" (Mathew 25:46)
  • "Weeping and gnashing of teeth" (Matthew 24:51)
  • "Fire unquenchable" (Luke 3:17)
  • "Indignation and wrath, tribulation and anguish" (Romans 2:8,9)
  • "Everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord" (2 Thessalonians 1:9)
  • "Eternal fire...the blackness of darkness for ever" (Jude 7,13)
  Passages on life after death: Scripture teaches that the spirits of men are fully conscious after separation from the body at death:
  1) They can speak: Isaiah 14:9-11 Ezekiel 32:21
  2)They can cry:
  Matthew 8:11, 12; 13:43, 50; 22:13 Luke 16:24-31;13:28 Revelation 6:9-11
  3) They can hear:
  John 5:25 1 Peter 3:18-20; 4:6
  4) They can see:
  Luke 16:23
  John 8:51-54, 45
  5) They can feel pain:
  Luke 16:23, 24
  Revelation 20;10
  6) They have memory:
  Luke 16:28