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  Why Do Christians today need a "governing body" of elders to be their spiritual "teacher"?

  by I_love_Jeff in

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  ...........and to provide direction for their lives?.

  since the bible reports that jehovah led first-century christians individually through instruction directly from the holy spirit, with no accountability to a "governing body" in jerusalem, why do christians today need a "governing body" of elders?.

  here are some examples of non governing body activitiy:.

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  NeverKnew- you, annoyed? Noooooo NEVER
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  Why Do Christians today need a "governing body" of elders to be their spiritual "teacher"?

  by I_love_Jeff in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ...........and to provide direction for their lives?.

  since the bible reports that jehovah led first-century christians individually through instruction directly from the holy spirit, with no accountability to a "governing body" in jerusalem, why do christians today need a "governing body" of elders?.

  here are some examples of non governing body activitiy:.

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  I_love_Jeff

  ...........and to provide direction for their lives?

  Since the Bible reports that Jehovah led first-century Christians individually through instruction directly from the Holy Spirit, with no accountability to a "governing body" in Jerusalem, why do Christians today need a "governing body" of elders?

  Here are some examples of non governing body activitiy:

  The Holy Spirit at Acts 13:2 directed the congregation at Antioch to send Paul and Barnabas out on their first missionary journey without any approval from a "governing body" in Jerusalem.

  In Acts 8 verses 26, 29, and 40, Holy Spirit is the one who directed Philip to the territories he should preach in.

  This is one of my recent questions on YA and here is a response from a JW most likely a disgruntled Elder:

  "You may want to actually read the Bible for yourself instead of repeating lies your preacher told you. First you should read about Moses, who led the nation of Israel. Korah thought as you do, he was destroyed by Jehovah. Then maybe you should skip to the judges. There were many of them. They served as spiritual guides to Israel. Oh and what about all of those prophets, like Jeremiah, Daniel and Amos, they too, were spiritual guides.You mentioned Philip in your question, was Philip not serving as a spiritual helper? You may want to re-think your question as you, yourself pointed to part of your answers, you just haven't pondered it enough to grasp the meaning, have you?"

  Do you see any comparison to the GB and spiritual guides of the Old Testmanent mentioned in his response? I really do not see the connection. In fact, I mention the Holy Spirit as a guide in the NT not the Old Testament.
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  When clearly observing Isaiah 43:10 and John 8:58, are the Jehovah's Witnesses guilty of eisegesis?

  by I_love_Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

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  13:19: "hina pisteusete ... hoti ego eimi i am [he]" (nwt).

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  John. 13:19: "hina pisteusete ... hoti ego eimi I am [he]" (NWT)
  Isaiah. 43:10: "hina pisteusete ... hoti ego eimi I am [He]" The NWT translation says "I am the same One" NWT

  Even if one were to theorize that Jesus Himself did not attempt to make such an obvious connection between Himself and Yahweh (which would be difficult enough to do!) why would John, being obviously familiar with the LXX, intentionally insert this kind of parallelism?
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  Do secular sources give a positive note on the wearing of makeup among the Israelite women in the Old Testament?

  by I_love_Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i posted this question on yahoo answers not to discourage those who wear makeup but to point out the ludicrous reasoning behind the mind of a jehovah's witness:.

  do those findings support your wearing of makeup in modern times?

  do secular sources speak highly of women who wore makeup in ancient times?.

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  I have come to the conclusion that the Jehovah's Witnesses use the eisegtical approach to the Scripture. Any objections based on the inconsistent teachings (birthdays vs. makeup) mentioned here?
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  Do secular sources give a positive note on the wearing of makeup among the Israelite women in the Old Testament?

  by I_love_Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i posted this question on yahoo answers not to discourage those who wear makeup but to point out the ludicrous reasoning behind the mind of a jehovah's witness:.

  do those findings support your wearing of makeup in modern times?

  do secular sources speak highly of women who wore makeup in ancient times?.

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  I_love_Jeff

  LonghairGal your ignorance is blinding me.
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  Do secular sources give a positive note on the wearing of makeup among the Israelite women in the Old Testament?

  by I_love_Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i posted this question on yahoo answers not to discourage those who wear makeup but to point out the ludicrous reasoning behind the mind of a jehovah's witness:.

  do those findings support your wearing of makeup in modern times?

  do secular sources speak highly of women who wore makeup in ancient times?.

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  I_love_Jeff

  I have nothing against wearing makeup but when hypocrites use the Bible to make weak implications based on weak biblical verses such as not celebrating birthdays because of negative association (murder), what should be said about wearing makeup?
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  Do secular sources give a positive note on the wearing of makeup among the Israelite women in the Old Testament?

  by I_love_Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i posted this question on yahoo answers not to discourage those who wear makeup but to point out the ludicrous reasoning behind the mind of a jehovah's witness:.

  do those findings support your wearing of makeup in modern times?

  do secular sources speak highly of women who wore makeup in ancient times?.

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  There own website mentions it in a negative light!!

  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20121201/use-of-cosmetics-in-the-bible/
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  Do secular sources give a positive note on the wearing of makeup among the Israelite women in the Old Testament?

  by I_love_Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i posted this question on yahoo answers not to discourage those who wear makeup but to point out the ludicrous reasoning behind the mind of a jehovah's witness:.

  do those findings support your wearing of makeup in modern times?

  do secular sources speak highly of women who wore makeup in ancient times?.

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  I_love_Jeff

  I posted this question on Yahoo answers NOT to discourage those who wear makeup BUT to point out the ludicrous reasoning behind the mind of a Jehovah's Witness:

  Do those findings support your wearing of makeup in modern times? If it does, do secular sources speak louder than the perfect Creation of God?

  Do secular sources speak highly of women who wore makeup in ancient times?

  A Jehovah's Witness stated the following when backing up her beliefs on celebrating birthdays " The M'Clintock and Strong's Cyclopedia. It says: "Jews regarded birthday celebrations as parts of idolatrous worship..." Even secular sources back up the Witnesses".

  Can the same be said about the wearing of makeup?

  Here are some examples of secular sources:
  Even before its use in Egypt, the original painted harlot was Semiramis, the mother-wife of Nimrod, and the founder of the Babylonian Mystery Religion. Semiramis is known as the mother of all harlots. She used makeup, as well as suggestive whorish clothing, for various religious and sexual rituals. The following quote describes the kind of seductive, sensual clothing that she - and later the Egyptians-wore: "Modern knowledge of ancient Egyptian dress derives for the most part from ancient paintings and sculpture, since very few garments have been preserved. The earliest representations of women show them either nude or clad in tightly fitting white linen skirts down to the ankles" (Encyclopedia Britannica, Vol. 5,1979 pp. 1016-1017).

  Your own website states:
  http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazi...
  Biblical references to eye painting are always connected with such notorious women as the scheming Queen Jezebel and unfaithful Jerusalem, portrayed as a prostitute by the prophets Jeremiah and Ezekiel. (2 Kings 9:30; Jeremiah 4:30; Ezekiel 23:40) Judging by the large number of glass or stone containers with tiny wands for applying kohl eyeliner that have been unearthed, it is evident that many women in apostate Israel-particularly those of royalty and the rich-had taken up the practice of decorating themselves heavily with eyeliner and other kinds of cosmetics.

  Please explain your answer. Thank you.

  Did God make an incomplete/imperfect Creation?
  Does God want you to "look more beautiful" than you are? Is this the way He thinks? Did the One who made you neglect to add just the right amount of makeup, so that you can be "at your most beautiful?" Does He want you to attempt to improve on what He made?

  "If God had meant for women to appear as they do after painting their faces, He would have designed their faces this way from creation-and THEN said, "It is very good.""

  Once again, I am not against the wearing of makeup but a particular Jehovah's Witness seems to suggest I do. It is out of plain ignorance not see the inconsistent reasoning presented by the Jehovah's Witness who made the quote/comment mentioned above.
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  What is the difference between wearing makeup and and celebrating a birthday?

  by I_love_Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  most of the women mentioned in the bible who wore makeup were prostitutes.

  jehovah's witnesses state that it is okay to wear a little makeup because the bible does not say it is not allowed.

  according to jehovah's witnesses, there are two accounts of birthdays being celebrated in the bible and both had to do with beheadings/murders.

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  I_love_Jeff

  WASBLIND!!! YOU ARE AN ABSOLUTE GENIUS!!!!

  " The Greeks believed that everyone had a protective spirit or daemon who attended his birth and watched over him in life. This spirit had a mystic relationship with the god on whose birthday the individual was born . The Romans also subscibed to this idea."____Reasoning from the Scriptures book page 69"

  So what is said about death in the pagan world? Jesus' death is remembered, right? So what is said about death? I can use the same logic as that in the "Reasoning from the Scriptures" quote for death. Of course, Jesus said to "do this is rememberance of me" BUT the quote you mention still does apply to those who have died, right? RIGHT!!
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  What is the difference between wearing makeup and and celebrating a birthday?

  by I_love_Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  most of the women mentioned in the bible who wore makeup were prostitutes.

  jehovah's witnesses state that it is okay to wear a little makeup because the bible does not say it is not allowed.

  according to jehovah's witnesses, there are two accounts of birthdays being celebrated in the bible and both had to do with beheadings/murders.

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  I_love_Jeff

  Once again I have nothing against wearing makeup but when hypocrites make weak implications based on biblical verses having very little connection whatsoever with a certain topic such as not celebrating birthdays because of negative association (murder), what should be said about wearing makeup which also carries a negative association?