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New NWT deception at Genesis 8:22 to indicate earth remains forever.

by jwfacts in

i could not find mention of this before.

i was reading genesis 8:22 in the niv and was surprised i had never noticed that this verse gives the impression that the earth will not remain forever.

genesis 8:22 stated by god after the flood, when promising to never again destroy all living creatures.. as long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease.

I_love_Jeff

"The revised NWT cleverly and conveniently took the negative particle lō' meaning "not" or "never" toward the end of the sentence, and placed it at the beginning of the verse (as did ISV) after the constituent adverb ‛ôd, still within the bounds of Hebrew-English translation to have it say: "From now on, the earth will never cease to have seed-sowing and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, and day and night."
BUT, the NWT reader may get the overall impression, more so than with Fox's translation, that the verse somehow indicates the eternal existence of the earth, when that in itself is not explicit by the wording used."

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New NWT deception at Genesis 8:22 to indicate earth remains forever.

by jwfacts in

i could not find mention of this before.

i was reading genesis 8:22 in the niv and was surprised i had never noticed that this verse gives the impression that the earth will not remain forever.

genesis 8:22 stated by god after the flood, when promising to never again destroy all living creatures.. as long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease.

I_love_Jeff

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6317021029466112/how-long-will-paradise-remaineth-does-genesis-8-22-give-us-some-kind-inidication

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New NWT deception at Genesis 8:22 to indicate earth remains forever.

by jwfacts in

i could not find mention of this before.

i was reading genesis 8:22 in the niv and was surprised i had never noticed that this verse gives the impression that the earth will not remain forever.

genesis 8:22 stated by god after the flood, when promising to never again destroy all living creatures.. as long as the earth endures, seedtime and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night will never cease.

I_love_Jeff

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20151119210957AAzjd3a

We put this question up 1 month ago.

https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20151225182558AAn1O7E

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How long will Paradise remaineth? Does Genesis 8:22 give us some kind of inidication?

by I_love_Jeff in

watchtower 6/15/1953 pg 371 though their annual periods were not calculated to the fraction of the day, there was no mistaking the seasons of the year, since jehovah had said, while the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.gen.

although jehovah's witnesses believe that paradise earth will remain forever, why does there own watchtower library 2014 software state otherwise?.

original word: part of speech: substantive; adverb accusative; adverb.

I_love_Jeff

Watchtower 6/15/1953 pg 371
Though their annual periods were not calculated to the fraction of the day, there was no mistaking the seasons of the year, since Jehovah had said,
“While the earth remaineth, seedtime and harvest, and cold and heat, and summer and winter, and day and night shall not cease.”—Gen. 1:14; 8:22, AS.

Although Jehovah's Witnesses believe that Paradise Earth will remain forever, why does there own Watchtower Library 2014 software state otherwise?

Original Word: עוֹד
Part of Speech: substantive; adverb accusative; adverb

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/5750.htm

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What is the connection between Astrology, Jesus, the Apostles and the Cross

by I_love_Jeff in

the 12 apostles????.

jesus' astrology birth chart???.

maybe the jehovah's witnesses have something right about the cross and its connection with paganism???

I_love_Jeff

The 12 Apostles????

Jesus' Astrology Birth Chart???

Maybe the Jehovah's Witnesses have something right about the Cross and its connection with paganism????

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If Adam and Eve were perfect, why did their immortality have to be sustained by the Tree of Life?

by I_love_Jeff in

it was access to this tree that kept adam and eve in a "perfect" state.

that is why they were kicked out of the garden.

actually, they may not have found the fruit at the time of their expulsion.

I_love_Jeff

There is an article on JW.org that addresses this topic:
http://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazi...

According to this article, it is not known how sin and death were passed on:
"Humans inherited sin and death, two enemies they cannot escape. Though we do not know exactly how sin and death were physically passed on to Adam’s children, we can see the results."

A careful reading of Genesis makes it abundantly clear what happened, so I'm not sure how the WTS has determined that death and sin are something physical. I do not see any scriptural indication that these things are physical in nature, apart from Romans 5:12 which says, "...[T]hrough one man sin entered into the world and death through sin..."

It should be noted that Paul's commentary, here, doesn't cancel out the actual account found in Genesis, chapter 3. One would think, after reading Romans 5;12, that sin and death mysteriously entered into the human condition by an unknown process. However, going back to Genesis, we see that death was NOT a physical condition, but - rather - a geographical one. If you are in the Garden of Eden, it is possible to live forever by eating from the Tree of Life. If you are NOT in the Garden of Eden, you will NOT be able to eat from the Tree of Life and, therefore, you will die ... eventually. For some reason, people are always forgetting the part about the cherubs who were assigned to block access to the Tree of Life. It is obvious that death entered into the human condition due to a lack of access to a life-sustaining "substance" or component. The notion that we have "bad genes" or that our bodies are imperfect cannot be successfully demonstrated scripturally.

Additionally, perfect people or spirit creatures can sin, so a "sinful nature" is not derived from imperfection. For example, Satan wouldn't have tempted Jesus if there was no chance that he might sin. Satan, himself, had a sinful nature even though has was an angel. The only thing that changed in Adam upon eating the forbidden fruit was his perception. Can the knowledge of good and evil be considered something sinful? If it makes us more like Jesus and Jehovah, then how can it be bad?

Jehovah made Eve's pregnancies more painful (which is something we wouldn't expect from a loving God), and he cursed the ground, caused farming to be more difficult for Adam. Eve was physically altered where reproduction is concerned, but nothing happened to Adam, apparently. One might say that Eve passed on her "bad genes" that made the act of giving birth more difficult for her offspring, but that is a mechanical problem which would not affect her decision-making at all.

Jehovah's Witnesses like to think that we will be restored to our original "perfect" state when we get to Paradise. I contend that we are not necessarily any less perfect now than when Adam and Eve were ejected from the Garden. Any subsequent deterioration would have to be attributed to our being deprived of access to the Tree of Life. Keep in mind that Genesis 3 suggests that Adam and Eve had not yet eaten fruit from the Tree of Life. One would expect it to have a permanent effect (like the Tree of Knowledge), which would mean that banishment from the Garden wouldn't affect their lifespan. Either way, death was IMPOSED geographically and did not result from physical imperfection. Any claims to the contrary are based on the Writing Committee's creative use of their imagination.

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Has Eternal Life become a carrot?

by I_love_Jeff in

in the insight on the scriptures volume 2 pages 248-249 the society says, "so with obedient mankind, when man's last enemy, death, is brought to nothing, there will be no sin working in their bodies to bring death.

to time indefinite they will not need to die.

the insight on the scriptures vol 2, page 1102 -what time indefinite can mean, "however, the hebrew expression 'ohlam' does not in itself mean "forever".

I_love_Jeff

"is it just me, or does the curved stick holding the carrot in front of that guy look to anyone else like it might be anchored in his ass?"

Ya you're right about that!!

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Has Eternal Life become a carrot?

by I_love_Jeff in

in the insight on the scriptures volume 2 pages 248-249 the society says, "so with obedient mankind, when man's last enemy, death, is brought to nothing, there will be no sin working in their bodies to bring death.

to time indefinite they will not need to die.

the insight on the scriptures vol 2, page 1102 -what time indefinite can mean, "however, the hebrew expression 'ohlam' does not in itself mean "forever".

I_love_Jeff

In the Insight on the Scriptures Volume 2 pages 248-249 the Society says, "So with obedient mankind, when man's last enemy, death, is brought to nothing, there will be no sin working in their bodies to bring death. To time indefinite they will not need to die."

The Insight on the Scriptures vol 2, page 1102 -what time indefinite can mean, "However, the Hebrew expression 'ohlam' does not in itself mean "forever". It often refers to things that have an end, but the period of such things' existence can be said to be 'to time indefinite' because the time of their end is not then specified."

So even after the 1,000 years are over, Jehovah's Witnesses will remain mortal. They will always remain able to die if they are not obedient????

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