at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.
they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.
- jerimiah 25:33.
The Spirit and the bride say, " Come !" And l et him who hears say, " Come !' Whoever is thirsty , let himcome ; and who ever wishe s, let him take the free gift of the water of life.
And projecting forward anyone that says I don't want to worship god anymore and I just want to do what I please to do he will say to that one 'die!' New scrolls coming to a locality near you!
at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.
they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.
- jerimiah 25:33.
Because you do not understand.
No TEC, it is you who don't understand, and lack reading comprehension, and deductive reasoning ability. Why have a bible at all if all you need is Jesus in your heart?
It isn't arrogance;
Arrogance is exactly what it is.
I did not always understand either.
You still don't.
I was AFRAID of the OT 'god'... but at that time, I did not KNOW the Truth of Him, becasue I was looking at men, religion, writings... everywhere but at Christ. I didn't understand then, what it meant to be the IMAGE of someone; or the TRUTH of someone. The voices of men and religion were standing in the way of hearing HIS voice.
How sad for you. I'm not afraid of the fairy tale bible god, and the point is no one should so please don't make the mistake of presuming that I am. He is nothing more that a pathetic despot. And how people keep groveling to this lunatic is beyond me.
at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.
they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.
- jerimiah 25:33.
Perhaps something or someone else will be able to help at a later time.
Why do you arrogantly presume that I need help, you should ponder what the theme of this thread is about in the first place it's not about helping anyone it's about how people still defend the god of the bibles BS.
Did Christ exterminate anyone who did not grovel to Him?
Did He bring harm on anyone?
Did he correct the texts that he said he would fulfill? That would be a no.
Is he going to bring harm in the future according to what is written? That would be a yes.
What man thinks of wrath and what the wrath of God IS, are two different things.
God's ways are not man's ways. That is not an empty verse.
Christ shows God's ways. But you have to be looking at Him.
Often, what man does to man(or what is a natural consequence that God tried to warn people about), is attributed to God.
God's anger did not blaze against Uzzah... God did not kill Uzzah. But that is how the people explained Uzzah dying after he touched the ark.
Okay so a total dodge of the texts that are in the book that you base your beliefs on, got it.
Are you ever going to answer my earlier question?
at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.
they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.
- jerimiah 25:33.
"At that time those slain by the Lord will be everywhere—from one end of the earth to the other. They will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground." - Jerimiah 25:33
14 "The great day of the LORD is near near and coming quickly. The cry on the day of the LORD is bitter; the Mighty Warrior shouts his battle cry.
15 That day will be a day of wrath a day of distress and anguish, a day of trouble and ruin, a day of darkness and gloom, a day of clouds and blackness
16 a day of trumpet and battle cry against the fortified cities and against the corner towers.
17 “I will bring such distress on all people that they will grope about like those who are blind, because they have sinned against the LORD.
Their blood will be poured out like dust and their entrails like dung. 18 Neither their silver nor their gold will be able to save them on the day of the LORD’s wrath.”
In the fire of his jealousy the whole earth will be consumed, for he will make a sudden end of all who live on the earth" - Zephaniah 1:14-17 NIV
"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to fulfill. Matthew 5:17
"15....He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty. 16 On his robe and on his thigh he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords."...17. And I saw an angel standing in the sun, who cried in a loud voice to all the birds flying in midair, “Come, gather together for the great supper of God, 18 so that you may eat the flesh of kings, generals, and the mighty, of horses and their riders, and the flesh of all people, free and slave, great and small.” - Rev 19
As these texts cleary show the bible certainly does speaks of an extermination, and Jesus had plenty of opportunities to set the record that he himself carefully studied straight, yet he didn't. I suppose your going to have an answer for why these texts equate to unicorns and cotton candy though...
The point is that the god of the bible just can't seem to own up to his failures in leadership, if people choose freedom instead of groveling to him he exterminates them. He did it in the flood, with the nations around israel to isreal itself and eventually to everyone per the bible. The thing is no one likes bowing down to a despot, it will never work. Even a great number in heaven could no longer stand his despotism. Like an angry child lashing out he always resorts back to violence, but this next time he is blaming it on others for not doing enough warning work.
The god of the bible is a monster, and you still havn't answered my earlier question.
at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.
they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.
- jerimiah 25:33.
God gave Ezekiel a specific task and He even gave Ezekiel the words to say.
Yes and Paul seems to have concluded that after running the (works based preaching/evangelizing ) race he was free of the blood of all men so the scope of what ezekiel stated went well beyond just ezekiel. The fact that those words were published for millions to see and imitate means that it's an unavoidable reality for a bible believer.
I can't help but notice that you keep avoiding this question are you ever going to answer it?
What are Christians supposed to be warning others about exactly?
at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.
they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.
- jerimiah 25:33.
Do you understand that the two of you are talking as though people could not have known that murdering another person was wrong... without a law telling them?
TEC the point is not that someone should have known it was wrong the point is that the god of the bible is a hypocrite who can't accept responsiblity for his failures.
It is not that it isn't true; it is that people do not look to the one who DID set the record straight. Instead, they look to men and religion who don't know anymore now than they ever have. The ones who help warp the record to begin with.
Christ DID and DOES set the record straight. That is why HE is called the Teacher and the Truth.
Now you seem to be talking in circles. You just stated earlier there is no extermination, when the bible clearly states otherwise. Also if Christ has set the record straight than how come the millions that profess belief in him can hardly agree on the meaning of many of his riddles?
at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.
they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.
- jerimiah 25:33.
tt2c Said:
And yet extermination is exactly what is stated in his book of bible riddles in several places. earlier you argued the need for community responsiblity to warn others, now you say there is no extermination...then why the need for warning and community responsiblity of warning at all!? I think your argument just had a complete logic meltdown.
Tec Said
I would ask you to go back and re-read what I wrote at the start... because I don't understand how you are connecting these things.
There will be those who are not permitted into the kingdom. But they are not exterminated or even killed. They are OUTSIDE the kingdom, and after the thousand years, these ones come against those IN the kingdom (deceived by the deceiver; but he works on what is already IN a person). They come TO destroy. They come TO kill. They come TO steal. But they CANNOT enter the kingdom. There is one way, and one way only, and that is through Christ. They allow themselves to be convinced that they can get through by some other means (their own). But fire from heaven devours them. Do you recall the flaming sword placed between Adam and Eve, and the Tree of life? They cannot pass through;literally cannot pass through; and fire devours them.
But yes, there is the resurrection of the dead... these ones are resurrected to life; or to judgment (death); all according to the deeds as recorded in their own books.
Do you think you might also be misunderstanding based on what the wts tells you you must do (part of Caliber's point); becasue it is the wts that tells you that you have to be out there knocking on doors, so many service hours per week, or you're going to die at (their version of) armageddon?
How does this even relate to what I stated? The bible says it TEC, and earlier you talked about the need to warn others via a community responsiblity. You can deny it all you want but it's there. Again please answer the question what are we to warn people about exacly?
And this has nothing to do with the WT, this is just the bible were talking about here.
at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.
they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.
- jerimiah 25:33.
The point, TT2C, is that it WAS known.
One person who hears something does not at all mean it's known. The point is that it was NOT an edict or standard to live by that people were generally aware of. His way of doing it falls below even the most rudimentary human standards of lawmaking.
Well, this goes right back to the beginning of your thread. He is not blaming anyone for what He is going to do... though He is also NOT exterminating anyone. Man doesn't need any help in that category as it is. He does, however, protect those who belong to Him from those who would do them harm; murder them; etc.
And yet extermination is exactly what is stated in his book of bible riddles in several places. earlier you argued the need for community responsiblity to warn others, now you say there is no extermination...then why the need for warning and community responsiblity of warning at all!? I think your argument just had a complete logic meltdown.
Furthermore, If what is clearly stated in the bible is not true as you suggested, shouldn't an almighty be able to and have an interest in setting his record straight?
at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.
they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.
- jerimiah 25:33.
He EVEN says the word "SIN is crouching at your door..."
TEC i'm sure that you would agree that stating this to one person is hardly DECLARING it as a sin, so that it's a moral standard that everyone needs to live by. Are you suggesting that everyone else was to take Cain's word for it? Sounds like taking the governing body's word if you ask me ...I mean really, how would everyone else even know? It's so like the yhwh to reveal stuff to only one and play favorites. He did it with Cain, Naoh, nation of Israel and the list goes on. Why can't this god do any better and just be straight forward about the things that matter in a way that is clear to everyone?
He can't even take responsibility for himself for the extermination that he promised in future. Instead, he blames it on those not warning others enough. I guess it's probably pretty boring up their in imaginary bible heaven and this all must serve as good entertainment for him.
at that time those slain by the lord will be everywherefrom one end of the earth to the other.
they will not be mourned or gathered up or buried, but will be like dung lying on the ground.
- jerimiah 25:33.
Regarding the comment you referenced if you actually examine the context he was repaying calibur in kind, and a big difference is Adamah has actually contributed substanitive posts to this thread.
In fact if you go back through all the pages primarily what you see from calibur is a long running ad-hominum attack on Adamah's character/motives, not a word about the topic or any of Adamah's points, pathetic.
