The understanding I got from C of C was that you will never see your file even if you ask for it. They will tell you that they destroyed it. But you have absolutely no proof that this has happened.
Personally, I wish someone would sue for their file. But all the society would have to say was that the information has been destroyed and all questions/lawsuits would end.
And I guess when it comes down to it, how important are those few pieces of paper they have with our names on it? In anger they are very important, but when calm, they are just peices of paper that really can't hurt us anymore.
*sigh*
RunningMan - they have no need to copy and then destroy. They have no need to truly destroy at all. All they have to do is SAY they destroyed them. No proof needed or demanded.
-P(J)
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Got my judicial notes & file destroyed
by roybatty indoes it bug you that there are notes about you stuck somewhere in a kingdom hall file cabinet?
i cant say that its kept me up at night, but it does bother me that there are notes from my judicial hearing (and a file) that i cant access but just about anyone with a little bit of nerve can.
anyway, i decided to call the po from the last congregation i was in and request that these notes be destroyed.
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Hope this wasn't posted already.
by pandora inhttp://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,5876608%5e662,00.html.
ram butts bible man.
by christopher salter.
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Hope this wasn't posted already.
by pandora inhttp://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,5876608%5e662,00.html.
ram butts bible man.
by christopher salter.
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http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,5876608%5E662,00.html
Ram butts Bible man
By CHRISTOPHER SALTER
23jan03AFTER a day of doorknocking the last thing Jehovah's Witness Kenneth Hawthorn expected was to be attacked by one of God's creatures.
But that is exactly what happened.
Despite a gate marked 'private - keep out', Mr Hawthorn entered a farm only to be confronted by a four-year-old ram.
He attempted to shoo it away with a briefcase containing Bibles but was knocked to the ground and suffered a broken shin.
In the South Australian District Court, Mr Hawthorn and his wife Pamela, of Tea Tree Gully, reached a confidential settlement with the ram's owners for loss of earnings after the incident in July 2001.
The Hawthorns sued Ronald and Julie Goldfinch, of Paracombe, in the Adelaide hills. They claimed they were forced to sell their hose-fitting business as a result of the injuries Mr Hawthorn suffered.
They alleged the ram was a "dangerous and ferocious animal" and the Goldfinches were negligent for not keeping it confined and failing to warn visitors.
The Hawthorns also sued the Adelaide Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses for failing to provide proper instructions about doorknocking in rural areas.
In the Hawthorns' statement of claim, Mr Hawthorn, who was doorknocking with his daughter, said they opened a gate on the Goldfinch property and walked towards their house to "engage in biblical discussion".
"As they did so a ram appeared and charged (Mr Hawthorn) to the ground and the ram continued the attack pushing him towards the fence," the court documents said.
"At this time the defendants appeared and assisted (Mr Hawthorn) back into his car.
Mr Hawthorn claims he now is able to walk only small distances and "his capacity to enjoy life has permanently diminished".
In their defence, the Goldfinches said the Hawthorns entered their property "uninvited, unwanted and without notice".
They said their hand-reared pet ram had never attacked anyone before nor had it shown a "violent disposition".
In its own defence, The Adelaide congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses said doorknocking was voluntary and followers were not obliged to do it.
Mr Goldfinch said yesterday he was glad the case was over but disappointed with the result.
"We're just totally disappointed that they should have got anything," he said. "He walked into an area where he knew animals would have been, why should we pay."
The ram, which was affectionately known as "S--- for brains", has since died.
The Hawthorns declined to comment.
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A BIG VICTORY!!!!!--help she is trying..part 7
by Jesika insorry it has taken this long to get to updating you all.
i have been celebrating our victory!!!
let me explain......................... .
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Anyone Here Lost Their Inheritance To The WT?
by Englishman ini have.. i hadn't even realised it until i had a conversation with my brother last summer.
our dad was a proffesional man who could command a good income whilst he worked.
trouble is, that he would listen to all the 1975 "end of the system" nonesense and then become motivated to serve where the need was great.
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At one point, all of my parents children were free and clear of the religion. At that point, everything probably would have been willed to the WTS, just out of spite. But now,, one of the siblings has crawled back and defamed herself. I'm very certain that my parents will reward her for her brused knees.
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orgin of my name
by jesusstolemyhotrod ini have only been an active member for a couple of days here, or a newbie as we are affectionatley called.
since i have been here though, on a few occasions, i have been asked about my choice of nicname and what it means or why i chose it.
since there is a reason behind it, and in my mind it stands for something, i thought i would share it's orgins with you all.
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Breaks my heart
by MrMoe inthe other day a foster mom asked if she could talk to me for a moment.
it seems a little boy i become more than close to here at the school will be up for adoption very soon, as his parents will not be allowed to have contact with him after years worth of thier case being reviewed due to child abuse and neglect.
she asked me if i would like to raise him and adopt him as my own.
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((((((MrMoe))))))
I haven't a clue how you feel. I don't know what it would be like to work with kids everyday that you want to save. BUT just reading what you wrote about him had me in tears. I can't feel half of what you feel for this child and what I feel tears my heart out. I want that child for myself and have never even met him.
There is no way I could do what you do every day. My respect for you grows. I salute you for being able to do anything. It would completely cripple me.What more can I say???
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Did you throw your meeting clothes out?
by sleepy injust been clearing some space in my house and deciding what to get rid of.i have a whole rack of "meeting clothes" shirts , suits ties etc that i have never worn since i left.i kept a few shirts and a couple of suits just in case i need them sometime.what a load of money those clothes most have cost me.one extra good reason for leaving, and think of all those dry cleaning bills you'll miss as well.bad luck if you work in an office.
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Yes!!!!!!
I refused to where dresses for years, simply because I was forced to as a child.
Even though I work in an office, my co-workers have never seen my legs. And I like it that way. 'Course my boss is bound and determined make me more 'girly'. haha. She tries to mother me. It's cute.-P(J)
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Thanks Yeru-
As hard as it was, my life turned out good. I grew up fast. And I don't recomend it to others. Loosing your family is hard, especially so young. But it is possible to recover and be a better person for it. I am stronger than any of my siblings. And I don't have a dependency disorder like them either.
The point of the story is to realize what options and what consequences are out there.
And a side note is: No matter how bad it is, it gets better. You can be down but you are never out.
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Gosh Shy Tears,
I remember that happening to me too many times. By my Third meeting with the Elders, I could tell it was going to be the same old story. Silent reproof. Slap on the hand. I was about your age. I was soo sick of the dealing with the crap. I got enough punishment from my mom. Why worry about 'elders' too. So I turned on 'bitch mode'. I started talking back and saying I didn't care. I didn't answer all their questions. The works. Just turned into a total bitch. The happiest moment was when they said they had to announce it to the congregation. YIPPEE!! Let them all know!! You can't talk to me about this 'truth' crap any more!!! That was wonderful.
When reality set in, it wasn't the grandest of situations. I still lived at home and while under my mom's roof I still had to go to the meetings and follow all her rules, which was just like being in the 'truth'. She still ruled. Then my parents decided they were leaving town to follow my dad's job. I couldn't believe it when I complained and they said I could stay. All I had to do was find a place to live. In my 17 year old mind, that was the coolest thing. Until I realized that my mother and father were going leave town and leave me behind. They never even met the family I moved in with. Still, I was ok with that. I didn't like my mom's rules anyway. She wasn't the nicest woman in the world. And I really didn't want to see what my best friends mother would say to my mother. She didn't even like to think about her.
It didn't all hit home until my graduation. When I called my mom to tell her the day and she said she would not be attending. That was hard. My own mother wouldn't come to my graduation. I really never thought that would happen.
That was the beginning of the rest of my life. I lived for 15 more years thinking the 'truth' really was the truth. You are lucky. You are here. At least you can see that getting out is the right decision.
Good Luck.
-P(J)