Posts by Pathofthorns

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Cult Favourites

by Pathofthorns in

soy un perdedor .

i'm a loser baby, so why don't you kill me?

soy un perdedor .

Pathofthorns

And in honor of the Tragically Hip (Canada's biggest band) shows announced today at the ACC, here's a Hip song:

NEW ORLEANS IS SINKIN'
Bourbon blues on the street, loose and complete
Under skies, all smokey blue-green
I can't forsake a dixie dead-shake
So we danced the sidewalk clean
My memory is muddy, what's this river that I'm in?
New Orleans is sinkin' man and I don't wanna swim
Colonel Tom, what's wrong? What's goin' on?
Can't tie yourself up for a deal
He said "Hey North, your South, shut your big mouth,
You gotta do what you feel is re..e..al"
Ain't got no picture postcards, ain't got no souvenirs,
My baby, she don't know me
When I'm thinkin' 'bout those years
Pale as a lightbulb, hangin' on a wire
Suckin' up to someone, just to stoke the fire
Pickin' out the highlights of the scenery
Saw a little cloud that looked a little like me
I had my hands in the river,
My feet back up on the banks
Looked up top the Lord above,
and said "hey man thanks"
Sommmme times I feel so good I gotta scream
She said Gordie baby I know exactly what you mean
She said, Ah she said, I swear ta God she said....
Wooo..ooo...ooo..oo...Na......Naa..a..a
Wooo..ooo...ooo...Na......Yeah.....
My memory is muddy, what's this river that I'm in?
New Orleans is sinkin' man and I don't wanna swim
Swim

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Cult Favourites

by Pathofthorns in

soy un perdedor .

i'm a loser baby, so why don't you kill me?

soy un perdedor .

Pathofthorns

...First of all, I'd like to thank everyone for their participation in this thread...

Today's song: Rock and Roll by Led Zeppelin

Rock And Roll

It's been a long time since I rock and rolled,
It's been a long time since I did the Stroll.
Ooh, let me get it back, let me get it back,
Let me get it back, baby, where I come from.
It's been a long time, been a long time,
Been a long lonely, lonely, lonely, lonely, lonely time. Yes it has.

It's been a long time since the book of love,
I can't count the tears of a life with no love.
Carry me back, carry me back,
Carry me back, baby, where I come from.
It's been a long time, been a long time,
Been a long lonely, lonely, lonely, lonely, lonely time.

Seems so long since we walked in the moonlight,
Making vows that just can't work right.
Open your arms, opens your arms,
Open your arms, baby, let my love come running in.
It's been a long time, been a long time,
Been a long lonely, lonely, lonely, lonely, lonely time.

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God and religion etc..............................

by Zep in

the communist world, it may be noted, has one big myth (which we call an illusion, in the vain hope that our superior judgment will make it disappear) it is the time hallowed archetypal dream of a golden age (or paradise), where everything is provided in abundance for everyone, and a great, just, and wise chief rules over a human kindergarten.

this powerful archetype in its infantile form has gripped them, but it will never disappear from the world at the mere sight of our superior points of view.

we even support it by our own childishness, for our western civilisation is in the grip of the same mythology.

Pathofthorns

My faith in God is based entirely on whether or not Jesus is who they said he was

This is the difficult thing for me. I also choose to believe in Christ being the Messiah, but it is "entirely on whether or not Jesus is who they said he was", which means while I personally choose to believe, how can I possibly insist in my being "right" because of what my "evidence" is based on.

Ultimately the evidence I have is not so much based in fact, but faith in what was written and the truthfulness of the testimony of men.

After examining the works of the so-called hostile witnesses, some historians and writers like Josephus, Pliny, and Porphyry, I still believe-I believe that Jesus was more than an ancient hero.

These days I'm not sure how to view Jesus. The evidence supporting some sort of Trinity and the evidence suggesting otherwise sort of throws me for a loop.

I do know there is more to the divinity of Christ than simply what we have been taught as Witnesses.

Also, the person described in the Gospels is quite the remarkable and likable character. Those 4 books simply shine in the Bible as they reveal someone so brilliant, compassionate, kind, merciful and powerful.

To me, they almost seem out of place, and his personality described therein seems almost contradictory to the Jehovah of the Old Testiment whom Christ mirrored perfectly.

This trying to figure how to understand the Bible, what weight to put to certain parts, or all of it, how to view it in the big picture of world religion and beliefs, is going to be the toughest part of all.

My faith hinges on the fact that Jesus was the messiah. If it could be proven otherwise, there would be nothing left for me.

Interesting comment.

Well, myself, i have a lot of doubt now. But i cant disprove God or a greater being or anything.I'm not going to use my doubt as a basis to dis-believe.Why should i make that jump, what good would it do me.

Zep, you make some interesting comments too. I am sure of very little these days, and find it difficult to proclaim anything as "the truth" with certainty. I wonder how much that really matters anyway?

Path

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God and religion etc..............................

by Zep in

the communist world, it may be noted, has one big myth (which we call an illusion, in the vain hope that our superior judgment will make it disappear) it is the time hallowed archetypal dream of a golden age (or paradise), where everything is provided in abundance for everyone, and a great, just, and wise chief rules over a human kindergarten.

this powerful archetype in its infantile form has gripped them, but it will never disappear from the world at the mere sight of our superior points of view.

we even support it by our own childishness, for our western civilisation is in the grip of the same mythology.

Pathofthorns

For me, my faith in God is primarily based on the fact that we exist.

Aside from all the talk of how imperfect we are, I find the perfection in life that is there simply facinating. How life is passed on, our senses, immune system, brain etc. is too remarkable for me to believe in something other than creation. (sorry to sound like a public talk outline :)

Beyond that though, everything seems to me to be a concept, a theory, a philosophy. I know whatever i choose to believe is simply unprovable.

This is the disturbing part about this whole trip. It is the knowing that after all the "travelling", I will likely end up in the same place.

Sometimes I wonder what is the point of asking questions that you know there is no certain answer to. But I am, for some reason driven to try and search for what cannot be found.

Path

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Cult Favourites

by Pathofthorns in

soy un perdedor .

i'm a loser baby, so why don't you kill me?

soy un perdedor .

Pathofthorns

Just ignore me

American Music
Violent Femmes

Do you like american music
I like american music
don't you like american music baby

I want you to hold me
I want your arms around me
I want you to hold me baby

did you do too many drugs
I did too many drugs
did you do too many drugs too baby

you were born too late
I was born too soon
but every time I look at that ugly moon
it reminds me of you
it reminds me of you ooh ooh ooh

I need a date to the prom
would you like to come along
but nobody would go to the prom with me baby

they didn't like american music
they never heard american music
they didn't know the music was in my soul baby

you were born too soon
I was born too late
but every time I look at that ugly lake
it reminds me of me
it reminds me of me

do you like american music
we like american music
I like american music baby

do you like american music
we like all kinds of music
but I like american music best

baby you were born too late
and i was born too late
but every time I look at that ugly lake
it reminds me of me
it reminds me of me

do you like american music
it reminds me of me
do you like american music

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Blister In The Sun
Violent Femmes

When I'm out walking
I strut my stuff
yeah I'm so strung out

I'm high as a kite
I just might
stop to check you out

let me go on
like I blister in the sun
let me go on
big hands I know your the one

body and beats
I stain my sheets
I don't even know why

my girlfriend
she's at the end
she is starting to cry

let me go on
like I blister in the sun
let me go on
big hands I know your the one…

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God and religion etc..............................

by Zep in

the communist world, it may be noted, has one big myth (which we call an illusion, in the vain hope that our superior judgment will make it disappear) it is the time hallowed archetypal dream of a golden age (or paradise), where everything is provided in abundance for everyone, and a great, just, and wise chief rules over a human kindergarten.

this powerful archetype in its infantile form has gripped them, but it will never disappear from the world at the mere sight of our superior points of view.

we even support it by our own childishness, for our western civilisation is in the grip of the same mythology.

Pathofthorns

My take on what this guy is saying is that while spiritual concepts cannot be proven to be correct, neither can they be proven wrong because of the nature of them.

For many, the constructive nature of such beliefs, the hope they offer in times of crisis, the meaning they give to their lives is basis enough for their believing something that cannot be proven. And because spiritual things/beliefs cannot necessarily be disproven, whose to say that person is "wrong" for believing whatever he does?

I think if we all only believed in only what was "proven", we'd all be godless. We'd lose what makes us human.

Path

PS. I think most would have little problem with the Witness beliefs either, if they genuinely allowed individuals the freedom of conscience to disagree. I wouldn't care if they taught the most rediculous things and people chose to believe them. For some it probably does some good in their life.

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God and religion etc..............................

by Zep in

the communist world, it may be noted, has one big myth (which we call an illusion, in the vain hope that our superior judgment will make it disappear) it is the time hallowed archetypal dream of a golden age (or paradise), where everything is provided in abundance for everyone, and a great, just, and wise chief rules over a human kindergarten.

this powerful archetype in its infantile form has gripped them, but it will never disappear from the world at the mere sight of our superior points of view.

we even support it by our own childishness, for our western civilisation is in the grip of the same mythology.

Pathofthorns

Hey Zep,

I liked that post. At first you had me going thinking that you had written that yourself. Here I'm thinking, "Zep is saying exactly what I've been thinking about these days!!"

I would be interested in finding out more of this guys thoughts. Thanks for the link Seven, thanks for the post Zep.

Path

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Cult Favourites

by Pathofthorns in

soy un perdedor .

i'm a loser baby, so why don't you kill me?

soy un perdedor .

Pathofthorns

You know, I don't even know what the h@ll I was talking about when i posted this thread. Post whatever you want. That's all i'm doing.

Instant Karma! (We All Shine On) - Lennon
Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna knock you right on the head
You better get yourself together
Pretty soon you're gonna be dead
What in the world you thinking of
Laughing in the face of love
What on earth you tryin' to do
It's up to you, yeah you

Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna look you right in the face
Better get yourself together darlin'
Join the human race
How in the world you gonna see
Laughin' at fools like me
Who in the hell d'you think you are
A super star
Well, right you are

Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Well we all shine on
Ev'ryone come on

Instant Karma's gonna get you
Gonna knock you off your feet
Better recognize your brothers
Ev'ryone you meet
Why in the world are we here
Surely not to live in pain and fear
Why on earth are you there
When you're ev'rywhere
Come and get your share

Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Yeah we all shine on
Come on and on and on on on
Yeah yeah, alright, uh huh, ah

Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Yeah we all shine on
On and on and on on and on

Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Well we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun
Yeah we all shine on
Like the moon and the stars and the sun

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by Pathofthorns in

soy un perdedor .

i'm a loser baby, so why don't you kill me?

soy un perdedor .

Pathofthorns

... then there was James- "Laid"

This bed is on fire with passionate love
The neighbors complain about the noises above
But she only comes when she's on top
The therapist said not to see you no more
She said you're like a disease without any cure
She said I'm so obsessed that I'm becoming a bore
Ah you think you're so pretty
Caught your hand inside the till
Slammed your fingers in the door
Fought with kitchen knives and skewers
Dressed me up in womens clothes
Messed around with gender roles
Line my eyes and call me pretty
Moved out of the house so you moved next door
I locked you out you cut a hole in the wall
I found you sleeping next to me
I thought I was alone
You're driving me crazy when are you coming home
Laid
Laid

Edited by - Pathofthorns on 3 September 2000 16:22:3

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Registration deadlines

by Seven in

jw
friends

to high school juniors and seniors, pay attention.

to the registration deadlines for you sat and act's.

the first sat will be given on oct. 14, 2000. deadine is sept. 12th.

Pathofthorns

Awake,5/22/69,pg15 If you are a young person, you also need to face the fact that you will never grow old in this present system of things. .....all evidence in fulfillment of Bible prophecy indicates that this corrupt system is due to end in a few years. ....as a young person you will never fulfill any career that this system offers. If you are in high school and thinking about a college education, it means at least four, perhaps even six or eight more years to graduate into a specialized career. But where will this system of things be by that time? It will be well on the way toward its finish, if not actually gone!

actual WT from Shaun's website:[url] http://www.jwfiles.com/scans/AW5-22-69p15.htm[/url]

*** km 5/73 6 What is Your Heart's Desire? ***
An elder in Korea encouraged his four children to pioneer. At a circuit assembly he and the children were interviewed. The oldest daughter related how she had been the highest scholastically in her high school. She herself wanted to go to college at one point. However, her father informed her that, while she was free to choose such a course, she could not expect financial support from him. She changed her mind about college, and now she is enjoying many blessings as a pioneer. The next oldest, a son, told how he also at one time wanted to go to college and follow a worldly course. But his father sat down and reviewed the Scriptures with him. His father also told him that, if he insisted on following a worldly course, he would also have to find another place to live. He heeded his father’s counsel and is very grateful that his father was kind but firm in his stand. The two younger children explained that they were impressed by what happened to the two older ones. From the beginning they planned to become pioneers. The youngest son gave up his high school education to pioneer.

*** w92 11/1 18 Education With a Purpose ***
11 What is often the situation today? [Read: "What has been the result of our bad advice?"]It has been reported that in some countries many well-intentioned youngsters have left school after completing the minimum required schooling in order to become pioneers.[Imagine that! I wonder where they got that idea from?] They had no trade or secular qualifications. If they were not helped by their parents, they had to find part-time work. Some have had to accept jobs that required them to work very long hours to make ends meet. Becoming physically exhausted, they gave up the pioneer ministry. What can such ones do to support themselves and get back into the pioneer service?
12 A balanced view of education can help.