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  Answered prayers

  by Oldhippie in

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  looking back over many years of prayers, i cannot pinpoint any time when i felt, unequivocally, that i had received a personal response to my prayers.

  can anyone here relate any experiences where you have felt that god answered prayers for you?

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  patio34

  I like Mark Twain's take on it in "Letters from the Earth":

  "He prays to Him, and thinks He listens. Isn't it a quaint idea? Fills his prayers with crude and bald and florid flatteries of Him, and thinks He sits and purrs over these extravagancies and enjoys them. He prays for help, and favor, and protection, every day; and does it with hopefulness and confidence, too, although no prayer of his has ever been answered. The daily affront, the daily defeat, do not discourage him, he goes on praying just the same."

  Pat
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  Contact Equals Suicide?

  by patio34 in

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  didn't find an appropriate forum for this unique perspective:.

  'our planet spends billions on searching for extraterrestrial life.

  have they never thought seriously about the question: what would happen if we found it, or if it found us.

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  Waiting,

  Ha-ha-ha-ha! FYI, 'Esther' is the 7th poster back. Is it not showing up on your 'copy' of the board? It's right before Hippikon's.

  Puzzled Pat
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  Contact Equals Suicide?

  by patio34 in

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  didn't find an appropriate forum for this unique perspective:.

  'our planet spends billions on searching for extraterrestrial life.

  have they never thought seriously about the question: what would happen if we found it, or if it found us.

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  Waiting,

  Huh?

  Pat
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  Homosexuals and Evolution

  by patio34 in

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  on monday past, the la times health section had an article on homosexuality, especially the traits visible in young toddlers.

  it also delved into possible causes of homosexuality and the latest research and theories.. there was an interesting comment in the article something like "it's a peculiarity in evolution that homosexuality occurs because it precludes procreation.

  " in evolution, whoever produces the most offspring are the ones who pass on their genes.

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  patio34

  Thanks Jim.

  Please bear with me a bit. Prehistoric men wouldn't have had procreation in mind maybe. And, animals, say chimps, our closest relatives, wouldn't have procreation in mind, either. Or would they? Because survival of the fittest is dicated by passing along one's genes.
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  Contact Equals Suicide?

  by patio34 in

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  didn't find an appropriate forum for this unique perspective:.

  'our planet spends billions on searching for extraterrestrial life.

  have they never thought seriously about the question: what would happen if we found it, or if it found us.

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  Waiting, 'Researchers have cast much darkness on this subject . . . ' Seems to apply also to the WTS, huh?

  When you stop and think about this scary subject of alien invasion, I realize it's a luxury that we don't have to seriously worry about it. We have enough to worry about in our own back yard here on earth!

  Esther, it would seem to me the theory of relativity would apply everywhere else in the universe. However, in the movie "Contact" travel was through a 'wormhole,' which didn't take long at all.

  It's as clear as mud to me!

  Pat
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  Should My Mother Shun My Daughter?

  by Englishman in

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  i don't know why i never spotted this before, but my daughter from my first marriage has just pointed out to me that her grandmother - my jw mother - has never ever contacted her since she was a child.

  how would her grandmother respond if she - my daughter - made some contact?.

  my first response was to say that i'm sure she would be delighted to hear from her, but then i got to wondering.

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  Hi Englishman,

  In about 1987 the WT came out with a big article on shunning unbaptized people who had been associated with jws. The answer was a big and definite "NO!" So, I think your mother, if she insists on the WT rules, should inform herself better.

  The rationale was something like they never were a jw so therefore they cannot be treated as a df'd one. They are the same as 'worldly' people, whom jws do not shun. It was new light.

  Pat
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  Homosexuals and Evolution

  by patio34 in

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  on monday past, the la times health section had an article on homosexuality, especially the traits visible in young toddlers.

  it also delved into possible causes of homosexuality and the latest research and theories.. there was an interesting comment in the article something like "it's a peculiarity in evolution that homosexuality occurs because it precludes procreation.

  " in evolution, whoever produces the most offspring are the ones who pass on their genes.

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  patio34

  On Monday past, the LA Times Health section had an article on homosexuality, especially the traits visible in young toddlers. It also delved into possible causes of homosexuality and the latest research and theories.

  There was an interesting comment in the article something like "It's a peculiarity in evolution that homosexuality occurs because it precludes procreation." In evolution, whoever produces the most offspring are the ones who pass on their genes. Hence, what we see today is the result of the predominant ones who produced the most progeny.

  But then you have the paradox of homosexuality, which leaves no offspring. How does that fit in?

  From what I've read, there have been numerous accounts of homosexuality in cultures throughout the history of humans. How did it survive the natural selection process of not leaving offspring?

  Any ideas?

  Pat
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  Contact Equals Suicide?

  by patio34 in

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  didn't find an appropriate forum for this unique perspective:.

  'our planet spends billions on searching for extraterrestrial life.

  have they never thought seriously about the question: what would happen if we found it, or if it found us.

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  Waiting,

  Hi! Your comparisons about the movies and aliens were good. What a memory!

  It sparked a thought I had when reading books on evolution. And that is that humans have evolved (so goes the theory) because of natural selection and especially geographical conditions. Also the enemies they have.

  Now, and this is the point, if life evolved on other planets, their geographical and climate, enemies, etc. were different than earth's. So, these beings may have evolved looking completely different from humans.

  SO, maybe the science fiction aliens aren't so totally far-fetched! Maybe an intelligent dinasour could have evolved. Spooky!

  I say 'Turn off those radio signals!' I think they did anyway--it was only done for a short time to a certain sector, I think.

  Or, according to SFJim, they could look like Chas Taze Russell! With that scowl and, imo, that ugly beard! You know, the kind with no mustache. Yuck!

  Pat
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  Super Elder on his way to a J.C.

  by TR in

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  "cults suck"

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  Thanks Gopher! Now I can sleep tonight! :)
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  Super Elder on his way to a J.C.

  by TR in

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  "cults suck"

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  Help, please. What's a 'J.C.'?