an average of five kingdom halls being constructed daily, almost 8 million brothers and sisters, dissemination of bible literature in 595 languages, 111,795 congregations worldwide, distribution of 179 million bibles available in 116 languages, 239 countries where jehovah's witnesses have a presence, etc.. need i go on?.
on the other hand........... crisis of conscience, freeminds, the awaa, jw.net, ummmmmm........hmmm........idk six screens or something?
not exactly working out for you guys.
You're either a liar, trying to deceive less knowledgable people who may be lurking, or you simply have no idea what you're talking about
Or yet another choice. I actually believe that SFPW actually just comes here to play devil's advocate and create a commotion. I truly don't think he believes in the Watchtower organization himself.
an average of five kingdom halls being constructed daily, almost 8 million brothers and sisters, dissemination of bible literature in 595 languages, 111,795 congregations worldwide, distribution of 179 million bibles available in 116 languages, 239 countries where jehovah's witnesses have a presence, etc.. need i go on?.
on the other hand........... crisis of conscience, freeminds, the awaa, jw.net, ummmmmm........hmmm........idk six screens or something?
not exactly working out for you guys.
They're not in any position of authority
Folks, it's times like these - when you hear a Jehovah Witness say that the governing body are not in a position of authority, that we can truly rejoice in the fact that we were able to escape from a group of people who have completely lost a connection with reality.
Freedom is so sweet!!
an average of five kingdom halls being constructed daily, almost 8 million brothers and sisters, dissemination of bible literature in 595 languages, 111,795 congregations worldwide, distribution of 179 million bibles available in 116 languages, 239 countries where jehovah's witnesses have a presence, etc.. need i go on?.
on the other hand........... crisis of conscience, freeminds, the awaa, jw.net, ummmmmm........hmmm........idk six screens or something?
not exactly working out for you guys.
@SFPW
It's obvious that your post is nothing much than an attempt to get a rise out of everybody here.
Not even you would be that idiotic, to make a comparison between a corporation which gets millions of donation money funnelled to it's pockets, and group of individuals who simply lead individual, free and productive lives.
after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.
thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.
i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.
It's for real, and he didn't change his mind since then, he simply accepted the cold reality of the forced choice he faced and had to make...
well this makes me feel a little better, since if i can read the between the lines here, it seems to be more related to personal issues that belief issues. It would not make sense otherwise....
after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.
thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.
i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.
You guys are believing this?? Stop it..
This is a post by Slim 2 days ago:
"I bet that will get the younger one thinking. There really is no good defense of the Watchtower practice of tearing up families for no better reason than some don't want to be JWs any more."
No reasonable person can change their mind 180 degrees in 2 days.
if jehovah's witnesses did not publicize the name jehovah the almighty living god, supreme being and most powerfull entity in all.
the universe would be dwelling in anonymity?.
wow.
How many times have we heard from JWs that they are "vindicating Jehova's name" or "Defending his name". This of course is said without meditating on it for a second.
As if the the most powerful being in the universe needs humans to do this. I watched a documentary the other day about the size of the universe and this subject came to mind.
I thought of Jehovah as a man sitting on a beach. Each grain of sand was a galaxy. Then believing that a speck of dust sitting on one of the grains of sand was essential to defending the man in any way.
i am currently on a business trip for a trade show in another city.
as i'm walking to the convention center, i run into 2 jw's preaching.
one is about mid 60s the other probably mid 30's.
Now , as much as I do not like it , and I really don't , they could use that verse to justify shunning those who question . This subject is driving me mad .
@jhine
You cannot take these verses at face value like the Watchtower society does. You need to understand them, especially in an historical context.
Paul wrote this at a time when missionaries from other areas were coming into the local christians groups and teaching things which were contrary to what Jesus had taught. This is described in Acts 15:1.
Paul called them "false brethren." (Galatians 2:4). In fact the letters to the Galatians and 2 Corinthians were written to couteract their false teaching. This was a SPECIFIC issue at that time which Paul addressed by asking local christians to remove these people.
This is very different from someone who simply decides they don't want to be a JW anymore. If i join a JW congregation and start preaching about things which are contrary to Watchtower teaching perhaps shunning is understandable, but that is not the case with people who leave the JW religion.
i have a ton of secret watchtower info stored on my tablet.
is there any way with my tablet locked with a password, can someone do a factory reset on it so i lose all my pdf files?
the boe at hubbys hall are aware i am in possession of secret crap from the watchtower.
There is probably about 50 different ways of doing this. But here is a simple one.
1 - go to www.dropbox.com and create an account
2 - using your computer login to that account and upload all of those files
3 - Using your IPAD go to the app store and download the dropbox app
4 - Using your IPAD open the dropbox app and log in and see the files
Even if someone can log into your IPAD they wont have access to the drobox account unless they log in there. That is two layers of protection. If someone restores your IPAD, you just have to download the APP again and login.
when i first heard about the new "generation" explanation i was confused because i didn't see clearly how they were explaining it.. now it looks like they finally figured it out for themselves and it is no longer confusing.. it is now a simple, ignorant, bold face lie.. this is from the january 1st watchtower.
(and i hope to hell someone from writing gets wind of this).
paragraph 15 page 31 blue stands for the exact words in the watchtower.
The fact is that the overlapping generation interpretation was allowing for a timeframe of ( + or -) 150 years. (75 x 2 ) . This means that many could start believeing that the end could only come around 2064. ( 1914 + 150 ).
This make the present time look less urgent and perhaps knowing that most of JWs are middle aged, many could start feeling that "the end" would not happen during their lifetime.
In this manner they assert that the second group is already old as well, making it seems that "the end" is much closer
good morning folks!
i have believed in the 1914 jw core teaching for more than 20 years.
but now, after seeing much about this date, i find it uncomfortable and odd to believe it unquestionably, much less defend it against opposing thoughts.
By just looking at, and reflecting on, some of these bible verses and checking their correlations, it would be reasonable to conclude that Christ is already KING way back before 1914.
So you're saying that he has been sitting around with a crown on his head, doing absolutely nothing for even longer than 100 years. That makes sense.
