Posts by redvip2000

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No Need To Preach In Every Country Anymore

by pale.emperor in

speaking to a pimo from my hometown yesterday.

he told me that in the watchtower study (10 nov 2019) regarding “the great tribulation” the elder on the platform said that there’s no need for jws to preach in every country in order to fulfil the prophecy, and therefore the org has already fulfilled that prophecy.

and that there’s nothing else left to wait for now but for “the great tribulation” to come.. gasps of delight came from the audience.. has anyone else heard this?

redvip2000

They have to say nonsense like this, because any critical thinker would quickly reach the conclusion that a large percentage of the population have never been exposed to the message of the Watchtowel, either because they are young, or because they live in a country where dubs have no presence or simply because no dub has spoken to them.

However, how does that square with the notion that the people that die at Armageddon will be the ones who reject the message? So if I live in Saudi Arabia and never heard of Jdubs or their message, do I get spared? If the answer if yes, then how incredibly unfair that people who by sheer luck are born in countries where they don't preach, get a free pass at paradise, compared with those living in xian countries.

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Why is Life Expectancy in the USA So Low Compared to Other Countries?

by RubaDub in

jw
friends

i was looking at the world health org.

report and it shows the us ranks 37th in the world (tied with albania) for combined male/female life expectancy.

the top 5 were japan, switzerland, singapore, israel and spain, all around 83 years.

redvip2000

And why? A lot a Americans eat everything from tin, frozen, fastfood. No gourmet-culture.

Yeah you have to understand the American culture. Our country has a society that is prone to excesses of many kinds. This society is not homogenous at all, there tons of people who are enlightened and have a sense of how to live a healthy live, but equally there are tons of morons roaming the streets, who don't care about anything except living in the moment and give in to every impulse they have.

George Carlin had a great bit about American culture.

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How it will end for the believers

by iankiptoo in

today, many signs have been fulfilled showing that we are in the end times and much has been said in regards to armageddon, tribulation... etc but little in regards to what happens to those who believe and what transitions them to be free and escape from all that to the final destination.

this is my focus and message is based on that.in creation, there were two trees at the centre of the garden of eden and we are familiar with what happened;man ate from the tree of knowledge of good and evil and then we are familiar with the ramifications afterwards.

now through jesus christ, the events that will lead to the end for those who believe are in 3 stages1.knowledge will be increased (daniel 12:4)there will be a transition, knowledge will transition from that of the tree of knowledge of good and evil to also include knowledge of the tree of life and this brings with it a transformation that will bring in the second phase2.healingthe knowledge/belief/faith will bring about spiritual transformational healing, also practical knowledge i.e.

redvip2000

today, many signs have been fulfilled showing that we are in the end times

Oh right, like there will be wars in different places, there will be earthquakes in different places, and the love of many will grow cold.

All very specific things, that no human can every predict.
What great predictions.

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Canadians and Europeans, what do you think of your national health care ?

by RubaDub in

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friends

we have been in a battle over health care for so long here in the us regarding public, private, gov't subsidized, obama care, medicare for all, and just about every permutation of the above.. we hear the horror stories here that people wait 20 years for a check-up (ok, bit of an exaggeration), but you get the point.

one side tells us that canadians flock across the border when they are sick and need to see a doctor.

the other side says that is simply not the case.. so tell us, if you live under one of the government systems would you replace it?

redvip2000

I think there should be some cost to using it at the point of delivery

Yeah agree, and this is really crucial in making people have some skin in the process. Serves as an incentive to not go to the doctor for every little thing. This is the same incentive as co-pays and deductibles.

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Dealing With Smelly People

by minimus in

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friends

i can never understand why some people simply stink.they don’t smell themselves??

i knew of certain jws that had to be counseled many times because they refused to regularly bathe, wash their hair or use deodorant.

and it’s not just witnesses.

redvip2000

I don't mean to pounce on our European friends, but in my experience this is especially problematic in Europe. Not to say that here in the US, you don't find smelly people, but in my travels to Europe the stench of B.O. is pretty common.

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I attended my JWs Grandfathers funeral

by joe134cd in

i attended my grandfathers jw funeral the other day.

firstly i am a rabid apostate, and certainly not wt greatest fan.

that been said however, i will certainly stick up for them when they do the right thing.

redvip2000

I can see that happening at a rented facility, but when it comes to a 'memorial' at the Hall...

Yeah i suspect that most of the niceties seen at the reception were part of the package suggested by the mortuary. These days they offer packages such as day with TV screens, memoirs, picture boards, etc.

If the Org had their way, it would be a bland service with a speech to promote the Watchtower.

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Canadians and Europeans, what do you think of your national health care ?

by RubaDub in

jw
friends

we have been in a battle over health care for so long here in the us regarding public, private, gov't subsidized, obama care, medicare for all, and just about every permutation of the above.. we hear the horror stories here that people wait 20 years for a check-up (ok, bit of an exaggeration), but you get the point.

one side tells us that canadians flock across the border when they are sick and need to see a doctor.

the other side says that is simply not the case.. so tell us, if you live under one of the government systems would you replace it?

redvip2000

For government sponsored health care to function properly it has to regulate what medial procedures and drugs cost.

That's correct. Now if the prices were set with the goal of having the patient pay, then the market itself would regulate this. There would be not need for government to do this.

Btw, you even see a similar logic when you have an accident and go to the body shop. As soon as the shop realizes your insurance will pay, they inflate the amount of parts and costs needed to repair, as opposed to being a lot more judicious if they realize the cost will be paid by you.

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Canadians and Europeans, what do you think of your national health care ?

by RubaDub in

jw
friends

we have been in a battle over health care for so long here in the us regarding public, private, gov't subsidized, obama care, medicare for all, and just about every permutation of the above.. we hear the horror stories here that people wait 20 years for a check-up (ok, bit of an exaggeration), but you get the point.

one side tells us that canadians flock across the border when they are sick and need to see a doctor.

the other side says that is simply not the case.. so tell us, if you live under one of the government systems would you replace it?

redvip2000

My parents live in Europe. They have national healthcare. When they need to go to the doctor, they make an appointment, go and pay close to nothing. It does take time to schedule an appointment, sometimes weeks, but this assumes it's not urgent.

if it is urgent, then they can go to the emergency room, or go to an urgent care, or go to a private clinic. Even in a private clinic the prices are very low compared with the prices in the US.

The issue with health care in the US is that prices are set with the expectation that the insurance companies will pay. This is why a hip replacement costs $35,000 +. If the health care providers expected the cost to be paid by the consumer, then it would cost as much as a TV. And this is generally what happens in Europe even outside of national health care.

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Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is Dead

by cofty in

the so-called caliph, one of the most evil men in human history, has blown himself up along with three of his young children while being pursued by american special forces.. the ambition of isis was to expand the territory of the caliphate under the leadership of al-baghdadi to whom individual jihadists swear allegiance.

now isis have nowhere to call home and no leader.

what a pathetic bunch of losers.. they will of course appoint a new caliph and reprisal attacks will no doubt follow in western capitals by christmas but the more contemptible they appear they less likely it is that young men and women will join their delusional cause.. respect to the elite forces who hunted him down - those on the front line and the many intelligence specialists who made it possible.

redvip2000

No immigration reform.

Where is the wall anyway? Possibly the biggest promise of the Trumpistan regime, remains undelivered, though to be fair it was dead on arrival.

Even as the Left spirals out of control, the fact that Trumphft was not able to deliver the "wall of shame", could well cost him the relection.

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What happens to Bethelites?

by rickroll in

so if someone puts their life into serving the cult for free at bethel, then say after 25 or 30 years they are not able to for one reason or another such as illness, or family issue or old age, does the cult have any safety net for these people or is it you serve until you can't and when you can't you just go away?

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redvip2000

They spend their active years claiming to not be a part of the world, but when necessity strikes will quickly resort to Ceasar's social security system.