Posts by redvip2000

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Do you give thanks for every meal?

by bruh in

do you give thanks for every meal or do you thank god once for the whole day of meals???

is thanking god for every meal scriptural or something that came along in early christianity ?

?.

redvip2000

Ironically, last night my parents invited me over for dinner since my sister is visiting from Florida, and as usual, they insisted on having me pray over the meal, since my father has developed a speech impediment due to a stroke. I obliged under silent protest in an effort not to be confrontational.

And so we bowed our heads to speak to our imaginary friend in the sky with a white beard, to thank him for chicken stew and rice.

I intentionally didn't mention the word Jehovah even once in the prayer. I asked God, to give food to the people starving around the world. I also asked God to help every person affected by the typhoon in the Phillipines because i know they usually just ask for the brothers. Then i went on to ask him to forgive our sins just like we must do, since we are not in a position to judge anybody".

The inquisitive stares i received at the end were priceless.

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Who REALLY is doing the successful preaching work today?

by Faithful Witness in

why do the jw's report their field service hours each month, turning it in for recognition by an organization...??.

jw's love to brag about their preaching efforts.

their very claiming the recognition for this work, is cancelling out their reward from jehovah god, according to the words of jesus in matthew 6.

redvip2000

"If the WTS did away with the reporting requirement, how many JW's would give up the "life-saving preaching work" altogether?

It really is a good point!! I'm pretty sure that if the Watchtower was not monitoring the work of each JW, the amount of hours would plummet down to a fraction.

"Approx 6648 hours.

Last year's stats: =1,844,182,235 hours, 277,376 baptized"

If you look at the landscape of any typical JW congregation there is usually just a handful of JWs who joined because of actual preaching work. The rest are the typical friends/family/co-worker stories. So you can be sure that you can multiply this number by 8 or 9

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Waiting for the JWs to come to my door...

by Hortenzie in

i read about the new tract distribution and thought to myself how should i react, when they come to my door.

finally today, after finishing my morning coffee, i got an idea!

i'll take the tract, look at it, look at them, and with a nice smile rip it up and hand it back to them with :"have a great day!

redvip2000

When JWs come, I'll take the tract, write on it www.freedomofmind.com, and hand it back with a greeting of a nice day

What if they take the tract you wrote on, hold it up and rip it in your face? You see the point now?

Since you are putting effort into this potential encounter, why don't you do things properly?? Go to JW Facts.com and print a few pages of the most relevant information there..

Then once/if they do come, you can simply say " I'll agree to take your information, if you agree to take my information". Chances are they will say yes..

Maybe they will read it, or maybe not but it's worth the shot. Being confrontational with someone is completely useless if your goal is to make them understand your point.

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Waiting for the JWs to come to my door...

by Hortenzie in

i read about the new tract distribution and thought to myself how should i react, when they come to my door.

finally today, after finishing my morning coffee, i got an idea!

i'll take the tract, look at it, look at them, and with a nice smile rip it up and hand it back to them with :"have a great day!

redvip2000

it is disrespectful for me to show them what I think about their lies?

It's disrespectful to show them what you think, if you do it in a disrespectful way. And this is a disrespectful way!!. It also accomplishes nothing but reinforce the idea the whole world is out to get them.

If you actually explain why you think they robbed you of so many years of your life, they might actually think " Hey maybe this guy has a point".

Instead, what they will be thinking is " People do hate us. The bible is so right"

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Do you give thanks for every meal?

by bruh in

do you give thanks for every meal or do you thank god once for the whole day of meals???

is thanking god for every meal scriptural or something that came along in early christianity ?

?.

redvip2000

@Braincleaned

BTW, i just printed this picture and hung on one of the walls on my cublcle....priceless.. lol

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Do you give thanks for every meal?

by bruh in

do you give thanks for every meal or do you thank god once for the whole day of meals???

is thanking god for every meal scriptural or something that came along in early christianity ?

?.

redvip2000

If you thank god you give him credit for providing your food. He therefore also gets the blame for the starving.

Excellent point. Amazing how often we don't even stop to think of these things for a minute. It seems our imaginary friend in the sky, insists on providing food in regions where there is already and abundance of it, while refusing to drop a bag of grain where it's most needed.

It's because of this that when i sit down for a meal, i close my eyes and pray to Joe, the owner of the market down the street, for helping put food on the table.

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Emergency relief fund for the Philippines. How will it work.

by joe134cd in

i was just thinking it will be interesting to see how the wts emergency relief fund will operate in the philippines.

ok it worked well with the storm in florida, with cashing in on the insurance cheques.

sorry to generalize, but americans have the disposable income, and the insurance polices for things like this - a thing the wtbts finds very attractive.

redvip2000

Jehovah's Witnesses are not allowed to get involved in the Red Cross

Yes... and considering the fact that the Watchtower society has no programs or arrangements to help those who gave up on education and careers to peddle their literature on a full time basis, the Red Cross and other "evil" worldly charity organization might be only solution for those who fall unto hard times, since as we know not a penny from the Watchtower will be provided.

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Emergency relief fund for the Philippines. How will it work.

by joe134cd in

i was just thinking it will be interesting to see how the wts emergency relief fund will operate in the philippines.

ok it worked well with the storm in florida, with cashing in on the insurance cheques.

sorry to generalize, but americans have the disposable income, and the insurance polices for things like this - a thing the wtbts finds very attractive.

redvip2000

We are usually amongst the first to arrive and provide support not only for our brothers and sisters affected by any tragedy, but for anyone in need of assistance. I always find it encouraging to see pictures of ones affected by this tragedy carrying Bible Teach books. That lets me know we're doing our job.

Boy, are you drinking the Koolaid.... Do you even think about what you are saying, or do you just regurgitate what is written in the yearbook.

First to arrive....lol.. What an ridiculous statement. It almost makes it seem as if bethel has special response units for search and rescue, and helicopters to drop food in hard to reach areas... give me a break.

This first to arrive actually means the local branch makes some arrangements to give some food and shelter to some of the local brothers, and then at some point gets a group together to try to rebuild some of the homes.

How much is this costing the organization? Not very much. But not to worry, the writers of the yearbook will dig up any stories of local brothers who help others out of their own initiative and take credit for it.

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JW came to door

by gma-tired2 in

jws don't waste time talking today.

she knocked on door, husband answered, she said were doing a world wide work and shoved a pamplet in his hand and left.

i remember the days when we actually try to get the householders in a conversation.

redvip2000

I think that during the special tract campaign, they keep it short on purpose. The instructions are actually not to spend too much time with someone, they are supposed to hand you the tract and move on.

But even on regular field service they don't bother trying to engage you in conversation. I think most JWs actually prefer if you don't ask questions.

They want to hand you a pair of magazines and leave, then walk slowly to the next house while they talk about their vacations. It's all about having enough hours to fill a service report and keep brother hounder off your back.

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Emergency relief fund for the Philippines. How will it work.

by joe134cd in

i was just thinking it will be interesting to see how the wts emergency relief fund will operate in the philippines.

ok it worked well with the storm in florida, with cashing in on the insurance cheques.

sorry to generalize, but americans have the disposable income, and the insurance polices for things like this - a thing the wtbts finds very attractive.

redvip2000

Better still would be for the WT to ask for funds, and then pass all of them to proper Charities who are actually going to use them for the good of the poor suffering people there.

Yes clearly and this is a great point. The fact is that even if the Watchtower society was willing to channel significant funds to the disaster victims ( which they won't), they really don't have a good infrastructure on the ground to coordinate things.

If they gave these funds to the Red Cross of another larger organization, it would be better utilized.

At the end of the day, they will get the local brothers to re-build the halls using free labor, then rebuilt a few homes so that they can boast about it in the yearbook about how they helped the brothers in those hard times.

Interestingly enough, chances are they won't help anybody but brothers, but the the "evil" Red Cross would gladly help JWs if they needed help.