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  “You know how I know that they're finished out there? The carts.”

  by Athanasius in

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  the watchtower's many legal problems and the jws' use of carts in their preaching work, reminded me of a scene and dialog from the film patton.. in a scene where patton is viewing a battle site the morning after, he says to an aide about the nazis: “you know how i know that they're finished out there?

  in my dreams i saw the carts.

  they kept buzzing around in my head and i couldn't figure out why.

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  redvip2000

  I personally think the carts were a brilliant idea. The Watchtower recognizes that they don't need to speak to anybody at all to keep things going. The money comes in from existing members, not from the public. Therefore by having the carts, the money keeps coming in, the hours spent on preaching go up, because it's super easy for Jdubs to rack hours up. JWs don't actually engage anybody at a door, so less chance of conflict and bad reactions. Jdubs that hate going door to door, are more disposed to standing next to a cart looking at their phone, so they will preach more.

  The only curveball with the carts is that it exposes them to apostates more easily, but even this is not so much a problem, because they just pack up and leave.
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  Need help in finding some information regarding the Adam and Eve tale.

  by Tameria2001 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am finally at the point in my life i no longer believe in the tales of the bible.

  my husband feels for the most part that it too is stuff made up.

  there are just a few things that he wants to get cleared up, and one of those being the story of adam and eve.

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  redvip2000

  It's actually embarrassing that any of us actually believe in fairly tale about Adam and Eve.

  God creates a naive couple, which have never been exposed to deceit, and then lets Satan, a wise a shrewd being, tempt them into eating an apple, which shockingly they end up doing.

  Then once God realizes they ate the apple, instead of seeing that it's actually his fault for exposing them to Satan, he issues a death sentence to them, and to all their descendants, for eating that apple.

  Then god lets this nonsense go on for 6000 years, because there is a doubt on whether humans can live well without God. Now most of these 6000 years were times of brutal pain, hunger, disease, and despair for humans, but he did nothing. And now that the quality of life is actually getting better for mankind, he is going to destroy everything to ensure he is not wrong.

  Well done God, you're a real idiot.
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  New building

  by asp59 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you think the new building addition to warwick ,that will house 1000 audiovisual and art production volunteers is a push to go online with the meetings?

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  redvip2000

  to go online with the meetings?

  There is no doubt they are moving more and more into the digital space, but if you mean making members attend meetings online instead, this will never happen.

  The only thing I think that keeps things together is the social aspect of the congregation and meetings, and the get togethers. If you replace that with some virtual connection, it will slowly eat away at the bond, and this would spell disaster for them.

  They probably just want to continue to create more digital content to feed to the flock.
  
  
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  Approximately 40 authors wrote the Bible considered as GOd`s inspired word .Jesus never wrote one sentence in the bible.

  by smiddy3 in

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  the bible from genesis to revelation and some apocrypha books are considered "god`s inspired word" written by imperfect men over the centuries.. yet jesus christ who never wrote a single sentence yet claimed to be the son of god and changed the history of the world not by what he said and did ,but by what others claimed he said and did.. moses wrote five books jesus wrote none .. how can jesus be considered greater than moses ?.

  did the political powers that be in those days see an advantage of making jesus and christianity an opportunity for power and authority over the population of the time ?.

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  Actually Moses didn't write the first 5 books, especially considering that the 5th book describes Moses's death.

  Nobody knows who wrote these fairy tale books. There is nothing special about the bible. A book that is full of nonsense and contradictions.

  Even the things in the bible that you could say are good, are not impressive in anyway. Ohh, "don't kill", "don't rob", "don't sleep with your neighbors wife". We are supposed to be impressed by that? Even other people around the world who don't believe in the bible have figured that out.

  You can walk into any book store and find self help books that far ahead of the bible. Books that provide real strategies and methods for living healthy, balanced lives, not the vague and redundant drivel based on middle eastern peasant philosophy.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses Came to My Neighborhood

  by Juan Viejo2 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  for nearly two years i have not seen any jehovah's witnesses going door to door in my neighborhood.

  that was not the case when my wife and i first moved here (north central oregon).

  in fact, our neighborhood was visited at least once every 4 to 5 months - even in the coldest winter months.

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  This cart thing is brilliant.

  And like someone said here, sometimes there are 3 jdubs standing next to a cart, when not a single conversation is had during the entire shift, and they are all counting the same time.

  Why not put a big billboard on top of each kingdom hall with a message to go to Jw.org and then just count 24 hours of preach of daily work for the entire congregation
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  Question from yesterdays persecution article...

  by JW_Rogue in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what are you resolved to do if under ban?.

  i wonder how many people were thinking about how that would be a great excuse to leave!

  finally, a good out, you were just too afraid of the persecution.

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  redvip2000

  The Watchtower has been preaching that this supposed persecution is one of the expected steps toward the end. Why worry about it? If it's just part of God's plan, why is there even a need to hide. Surely Jellohoba will have his angelic apparatus tasked to protected the jdubs.

  Too bad they don't realize that nobody gives a shit about Jdubs. There will be no ban on any religion, and certainly no ban on a minuscule religion that nobody cares about.
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  The urgent, lifesaving work of Jehovah's witnesses......hardly!!

  by RayoFlight2014 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  since june 2016 i have kept a journal of my encounters with jehovah's witnesses at my door or in my street.

  i'm a a nosey bastard and a bit of a home body when i'm not at work so i don't miss much of who comes past my home or knocks at the door.. will and dill.. they came to my door on a wednesday morning around 10:30am mid june 2016, i was on afternoon shift and had been reading bart ehrman "misquoting jesus".. what follows is the conversation as best i could recount after they left;.

  of the two young gentlemen, dillon, the younger in appearance introduced will and himself, he then proceeded to present me with a brochure about world conditions supposedly getting worse.. me: i could stand at the door nodding in agreement if you like?

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  redvip2000

  I like reading about encounters with Jdubs. There really should be more posts about those situations.

  Well done.
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  Does Today’s Comedy Offend You?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there was a time we could laugh about mindless silly things.

  someone using an ethnic accent, making fun of their own race, making fun of someone’s intelligent, etc.

  we could laugh without feeling constantly offended , upset or disturbed.

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  redvip2000

  Trudeau is one of those droves of idiots who find offence in everything.

  Sure, but I don't care about Trudeau either way. I'll call shots based on issues. Good thing about not belonging to a team. You can call it as you see it.
  
  
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  Do You Think Trump Should Be Impeached?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some democrats are zealously pushing the impeachment route to get rid of trump.

  even if you don’t like him, do you support impeachment proceedings?.

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  Trump is too busy having a Tweeter war with John Legend's wife to care about war or anything else.

  Don't worry folks it's just another day in the Banana Republic.
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  Does Today’s Comedy Offend You?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  there was a time we could laugh about mindless silly things.

  someone using an ethnic accent, making fun of their own race, making fun of someone’s intelligent, etc.

  we could laugh without feeling constantly offended , upset or disturbed.

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  redvip2000

  Justin Trudeau has apparently been caught in 'brown face'.A picture has emerged of him 'browning up' at an Arabian themed party from 2001.

  And he should be allowed to dress as anybody he wants to, as long as it's not in the intent of disparaging. If someone decides they will dress up as a character who happens to be of another skin color at halloween, and it's done in good spirit, then this is totally fine.

  The issue are the droves of idiots, that spend their days trying to come with things to complain about. Just part of the outrage society we live it.