Posts by Phizzy

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Letter read cong is now an association

by Yomama in

jw
friends

what does that mean?.

Phizzy

" wt writers already use the term "associate", when they call a jw who has terminated his membership ( by voting for trump/biden for example) as "disassociated".

Oh that explains why they can't call them members then, otherwise when they threw someone out they would have to say they had been dismembered.

It was mentioned above that they kept referring to themselves as the "Ecclesiastical Governing Body" I guess that is an attempt to distance the 8 Popes from the bit that has all the money, the actual org, and they will claim as individuals they have no money. And as responsibility stops with the EGB the Org itself cannot be sued. I don't think that will work either Legally but they will try any underhanded trick they can think of.

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of or relating to the church or the clergy; churchly; clerical; not secular.

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Letter read cong is now an association

by Yomama in

jw
friends

what does that mean?.

Phizzy

Yes Rick , I see the move as motivated entirely by this, thus the org itself would not be Sued for compensation, and the poor victims would not get what they should for having a life both stolen and ruined. The Elders and local Cong have few assets, not even a K.H that belongs to them !

Heartless money grubbing bastards, JW Org.

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When will the JW Org count for nothing on the World Scene ?

by Phizzy in

i was wondering if any of you experts on statistics and trends etc could answer the question above ?.

if you know how to do it, if you can extrapolate a true figure for the falling membership in areas that are internet connected, then we can say " by the year **** they will be so small in the internet regions that they will be on the brink".. i have put this topic in " scandals and cover ups" because it seems to me they are trying to hide how many are leaving, and how few are joining in the areas mentioned.

the non internet places will not contribute much in the way of $$$, so however the figures change for them, up, or down, makes little difference.

Phizzy

I was wondering if any of you experts on Statistics and Trends etc could answer the question above ?

If you know how to do it, if you can extrapolate a true figure for the falling membership in Areas that are Internet connected, then we can say " By the year **** they will be so small in the Internet Regions that they will be on the brink".

I have put this Topic in " Scandals and Cover Ups" because it seems to me they are trying to hide how many are leaving, and how few are joining in the areas mentioned. The non Internet places will not contribute much in the way of $$$, so however the figures change for them, up, or down, makes little difference. I may be wrong, they may have some growth in even Internet areas, but no growth in real terms compared to population growth is a sign they are failing.

Anyone have a stab at this ?

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If Biden wins

by mickbobcat in

if biden wins i hope trump starts the trump news network and hires out from fox the good casters.

the people who made fox what it is are starting to get sick of how its turning to the left or dark side.

this would give trump a voice and keep alive real journalism.

Phizzy

"The stereotype of the American idiot, who is arrogant, ignorant, prone to excesses is to some extent true. Not always, not everybody, but enough to justify it."

Take "American " out of that and substitute British and you would not be wrong. What has happened is that people generally had become used to being able to trust the MSM over the years, probably slightly misplaced that trust, even back then, and have continued to get their Political and other education from the MSM, even though it has become corrupted by Money from various dubious sources, and you simply cannot trust one bit of it here.

You have to make the effort to find trustworthy sources of info. and even with them recognise their Agenda and so use a bit or exegesis on what you are being told. Oh, and properly Fact Check !

These MSM "educated" people do not understand what Socialism is, what Democratic Socialism is, and will not understand that Biden is neither of these, as they do not understand the nature of their own Government, here in the U.K. It is a sad state of affairs, these people, who are basically "Rent a Mob" in their mentality, have the Vote, and can be swayed to Vote in whoever the MSM want to be in power.

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We in the UK are dealing with COVID all wrong

by LoveUniHateExams in

yeah, so boris johnson has plunged the whole of the uk back into a second lockdown.

kids are still going to school (thank goodness!

) but this second lockdown is ruining the economy and killing small businesses.. the first lockdown was forgivable because, at the time, nobody knew what we were dealing with.. but now, we know more and more about covid-19.. it is lethal to elderly people (the average age of deaths with covid in the uk is 82 years - the average age of deaths without covid in the uk is 81 years).. it is also lethal to obese people and people with diabetes.. i'd imagine hiv+ people are another vulnerable group.. but to everyone else, catching covid is fairly similar to catching the flu.

Phizzy

Here in the U.K we do get some info. on the number of beds in Covid wards that are occupied. The last Report I heard was a few days ago, I can't remember the figures, but a in a few areas of the Country were full, or near full, other areas not so much under pressure.

With the specially built " Nightingale Hospitals" which the Government crowed about, after underfunding the NHS for over a decade themselves, and the previous New Labour Government having done the same, they realised they had no one to Staff them !

A suggestion was made that they could use Military medical People, but they found that having made many of these folk redundant in recent years they did not have enough or them either !

Yes, the Government are not dealing with Covid in any sensible way, they are now hoping the various Vaccines will extract them from the mire, which is to a great extent of their own making.

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Trying to forget

by Anne in

ok, right or wrong, i’ve attempted to ignore all jw related “stuff” in my life.

i fired my mom many years ago from babysitting for violating the no proselytizing to my kids rule.

shortened version of long story: i paid her for childcare (fair, going rate), super witness!

Phizzy

I think it is a good idea to get away as far as possible from all things JW, though I do come on here myself ( too much).

With the good friends I had as a JW, and many were, real friends , doing lots of stuff for us , because of friendship, not just because we were JW's too, I now think of them as though they live in another Country, and I will probably never run in to them again, same with my JW family which now shuns me.

So, in fact, I think of them rarely. My current friends, 99% never JW's plus a handful of XJW's, I treasure. One, never a JW, recently passed away, he was only 72, I sobbed and grieved far more over his passing than I did over close JW family members who died, he was like a Brother to me. I had more true love and friendship from him than from any JW.

Even talking about things JW is a rarity in our House, but we have been out for years.

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Voter Fraud !

by Sea Breeze in

dick morris sounds the alert:.

https://www.dickmorris.com/fight-massive-democratice-fraud/ .

Phizzy

Here in the U.K we are assured that no fraud takes place. But in our General Election in Dec. '19 there were a lot more than normal Postal Votes, The BBC Political Reporter Laura Kuennsberg (spelling ?) blabbed out that they were in the majority Votes for the Conservative ( = Republican) Party, BEFORE THE OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT !

Now, how did she know ? The count of all Votes was done by a Company that was owned by Conservatives and was set up shortly before the G.E and was wound up a few days after the G.E.

But we are assured Voter fraud or similar did not happen. ?? We have just received a letter from our Conservative leader of our Conservative County Council urging us to Vote by Post and enclosing the Forms.

Nothing suspicious about this move either, which has never ever been done before, I suppose ?

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''Faith in Action'' video....Jesus Disciples depicted with ''field service bags'' and preaching with ''Scrolls''

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

here is a screenshot from a video on jw.org.

go to videos, our organization, history .

jehovah's witnesses—faith in action, part 1: out of darkness.

Phizzy

" Do not carry a money bag, a food pouch, or sandals" . says the Gospel of Luke.

Oh dear, those Christians in the JW Org pic. would have been in the backroom in front of a J.C. for "Brazenly" going against the instructions of Jesus ! Ha Ha !

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Letter read cong is now an association

by Yomama in

jw
friends

what does that mean?.

Phizzy

I think we probably need the erudite Poster Corney, or someone similarly educated in Matters Legal to explain, but I would think, as usual, it is about the $$$.

This may well be used to try to legally sever the link between the individual Congregations and JW Org, so that in any legal action against a Congregation JW Org would not have to pay out, all liability would fall entirely upon the Congregation, and probably be borne by the Elders.

Watch out Elders ! you could lose your life savings and your home !

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As of Today 20/11/2020 on the official website... National Redress Scheme.

by smiddy3 in

the following institutions named in the royal commission and/or an application have not yet joined or signified their intent to join the scheme:.

jehovah’s witnesses .

among others i have not named as i`m only concerned about the jw`s on this forum .

Phizzy

I remember their excuse being they did not feel it applied to them as an Organisation. I hope it is forcibly shown to them that if they do not voluntarily compensate victims to a higher level than the redress Scheme would, then the State will take action to make sure the JW Org pays up some other way.

The whole thing springs from the fact that they never felt "it applied to them as a an Organisation" to do the Morally Right thing and protect the vulnerable, and if that failed, to Report straight away to the Authorities.

They are an Organisation lacking Morals and basic human empathy and compassion.

They only care about $$$.