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  Rowan Atkinson calls for 'more speech'

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  2. current

  this video is a few years old but is very timely considering the culture war that is raging in the uk, the us, and other western countries.. his argument is simple - he's calling for 'more speech' to counter bigoted speech and ideas, rather than shutting conversations down.. well worth a listen ….

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=biqdzlazygu.

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  Phizzy

  There are more efforts now than ever to stop free speech, and to silence ANY criticism, we see this in all spheres now. I agree with Rowan !
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  What useful piece of literature have the JW produced?

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  seeing on another post here about former jws throwing away literature.

  i am curious as to the various opinions on there value.. for me i have been inactive for 3 years almost 4. i still have alot of books and of course all their bibles ever produced (except a few from the 1800s.).

  in my opinion i think there are four books the jws produced that are useful:.

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  Phizzy

  Thanks Petra ! I think I may have the 1990 edition, I will check when I can get to my old JW library, which is small, but my wife has made inaccessible while she "tidies up", I can take it they have not updated or replaced this book then, in which case they should be ashamed !

  If someone could kindly confirm my assumptions, I may do a Thread on all that books faults, and lies etc !

  I also assume it is not used at all in meetings as assigned material then ?
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  RIP Diego Armando Maradona (1960-2020)

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. current

  diego maradona apparently died yesterday, 11-25-2020, from a heart attack aged 60.. on the football pitch he was a genius, a footballer of outrageous talent.

  btw i'm english, and like many of my compatriots, i remember how disgraceful his cheating was in the quarter finals of the 1986 world cup against england.

  he clearly deliberately punched the football into the net, and that goal should not have been allowed.

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  Phizzy

  I take nothing away from the total brilliance of Maradona, but that second goal was aided by some piss poor defending !
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  The Security of Following Rules

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i think many people feel secure with an abundance of rules.

  they enjoy being told what to do, how to think.

  it makes them feel safe.

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  Phizzy

  Enjoying true freedom of thought AND action is a joy. Of course, any freedom comes with responsibility, but I am happy with those rules, which boil down to " Don't use your freedom to be a Dick", simple, nothing more needs to be said !
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  73 years old, a Witness for 48 years, an elder for 24 years, Baptized just before 1975. WOKE UP!

  by pistolpete in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i thought i would post an encouraging experience i found today.

  i've been seeing a lot of 70-80 year old jws waking up, and their children are posting their experience on reddit.

  these are old elders, pioneers, circuit overseers who have given their everything and finally at the end of their life, are walking away.. maybe the key to waking up is that a person has to have a deep sense of right and wrong.

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  Phizzy

  He sounds like a kindred spirit to me ! 1914 being bollocks is what woke me up too, but when I left I still believed in Big and Little J and in the Bible, as he does, at present. I was in my late 50's.

  " -a good person no matter what age, has no choice but to follow their good conscience and LEAVE. Regardless of the Cost." true, pistolpete, my JW parents brought me up to be a Lover of Truth, ironic a ? and I left because of that conscience, not knowing the cost, I simply had no choice.

  I am still a Lover of truth.
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  Who's he kidding!?

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i had to read this paragraph twice in case i'd misread it the first time.

  who is he trying to kid!?

  mr gomez says, "there's very little rules, if any, most of our conduct is governed by principles, and there's a lot of room for us to make personal choices.

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  Phizzy

  A letter to the paper that may get published would be good from someone living in the Area. Be careful to stick to facts, make sure you explain Mr Gomez' two lies, if you do it.
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  Who's he kidding!?

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i had to read this paragraph twice in case i'd misread it the first time.

  who is he trying to kid!?

  mr gomez says, "there's very little rules, if any, most of our conduct is governed by principles, and there's a lot of room for us to make personal choices.

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  Phizzy

  " "There's very little rules, if any, most of our conduct is governed by principles, and there's a lot of room for us to make personal choices." An Elder no doubt, or certainly a grad of the Ministry School as he has said, he knows this is a downright LIE !

  I found this, which is also disingenuous " "It's absolutely personal whether you want to choose [to stay in the religion],"

  Mr Gomez does not add that if you make the decision to leave the WHOLE of your JW family will Shun you ! A devastatingly evil and unloving thing to do, not Christian at all !
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  2020-Articles Of Association--Bylaws--Notice Of Special Meeting! (as of 2020-11-25)

  by Atlantis in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  2020--articles of association and bylaws--3 pages.. .

  2020--notice of special meeting in december--8 pages.

  if you are a jw read carefully before you sign.. .

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  Phizzy

  In Article 9 it says that "No member of the Congregation shall be liable for.............. "

  So who pays in cases of Abuse ? This lets the Elders as individuals or as a Body off the hook, the Congregation itself as an entity has no assets, and little cash on hand.

  This is a move to deny any poor Victims due Compensation for having their lives STOLEN !

  How does this square with the other letter we got recently that JW's are not members, but associates ?
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  Circuit overseers wives.

  by stan livedeath in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  or..as i remember the title..circuit servants wives.

  but then i left 40+ years ago.. any recollections of those females that led such an unnatural existence?.

  those that i recall seemed such aloof creatures..

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  Phizzy

  One that stayed with us was very nice, but without doubt totally batty ! She insisted on washing up for us, in the days before we had a Dishwasher, and she was useless at it. My wife had to do it again when she wasn't looking.
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  Old Literature 

  by RolRod in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what did you do with your jw literature when you left?

  kept it, sold it or dumped it?

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  Phizzy

  I kept some Books for reference purposes, a couple of Mags containing pretty damning stuff, and burned the rest.

  Having that Bonfire was very cathartic, my "Ministry" bag and stuff went on it too, it also freed up a lot of shelf space ! More room for books of use and value !