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  What police have to deal with

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  so, the actions of cops have come under scrutiny in recent days, what with the trial of derek chauvin and the death of daunte wright.

  i certainly hope justice is served in both those cases.. what is easy for people to forget, is just what police officers have to deal with on a regular basis, during their interactions with citizens.. here's a video breaking down one such interaction.. a car owner was driving his car but the tags weren't legally displayed.

  cops wanted him to pull over but the driver continued driving for a mile and a half with a police car following with sirens and lights.

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  Phizzy

  Even here in the U.K people forget what the Cops have to deal with, on a daily basis they risk their lives too, admittedly because of our Gun Laws etc it is mercifully rare that they face someone armed with a gun, though still a very real possibility.

  But they have the absolute Scum, the Lower Sludge Pond life to deal with. And because our various Services have been underfunded for so many years, they have to deal with people with Mental Health and other problems that really should not come in their remit.

  They are remarkably restrained when dealing with some A Holes, very Professional, and we are often given the wrong half of the story. I have seen many people at protests and demonstrations deliberately winding up the Police on Duty. No wonder they get a smack occasionally when things kick off !

  Having said that, there are always within the Police bad elements who simply wish to use their power, and also may have racist or other bad attitudes, these guys are rare, but likely to cause a miscarriage of Justice, or even the death of someone. Bad Apples do not belong in the Force.
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  JW Scheduler

  by truthlover123 in

  1. watchtower
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  has anyone on here downloaded the app " jw scheduler"?.

  in perusing this site i see info re if publishers are going back to the halls after the covid is "in control".

  some comments are that numbers are dropping - not here... more connected than were actually going to the halls.

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  Phizzy

  Whatever time these guys in Oz spend on operating the App. I bet they claim that as F.S time ! is there any way they make money out of this personally too perhaps ??
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  Prince Philip dies aged 99

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  born philippos, prince of denmark and greece in 1921, prince philip has died aged 99 years old (june 1921 - april 2021).. a very long, quite remarkable life lived.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaqxest27_e.

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  Phizzy

  The D.O.E was a man of his time and upbringing and life experience. I think people of much younger generations totally misunderstand his jokes and remarks, to call him a Racist is silly, he is a Royal, and all people who are not Royals are naturally thought of by them as being different.

  But few if any of his remarks seem to me to be malicious, they are not the usual racist tropes, and he didn't preclude anyone from the benefit of his humour. He enjoyed letting a little of the real Phillip show at times, we who have been JW's know what it is like to have to pretend, to always say the right thing, and nothing even slightly risqué or whatever, we should sympathise with the fella, he had hard role in life.
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  Prince Philip dies aged 99

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. current

  born philippos, prince of denmark and greece in 1921, prince philip has died aged 99 years old (june 1921 - april 2021).. a very long, quite remarkable life lived.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaqxest27_e.

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  Phizzy

  Someone asked " Does the Lizard Person that lived inside him live on ?" , what do you guys think ??
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  Place your bets

  by Yomama in

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  belgium case will watchtower appeal there shunning case.

  or will they pay fine an accept defeat.

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  Phizzy

  I think they have already indicated that they will appeal the Belgique Verdict. How far they are prepared to take Appeals remains to be seen, but if they wanted , they could go all the way to the European Court.

  Personally I would like to see them do so, and to LOSE ! This would certainly be a great step forward in getting the Shunning done away with !

  FFGhost the case in Belgium was about Shunning, not about Tax, but you are right, they normally fight all the way to try not to pay Compensation or Tax. And of course maybe a Class Action for compensation by those recently Shunned in Belgium may be possible if they lose their Case. If they are arrogant enough to take it to the European Court, and do lose, the Compensation claims will flow in from all E.U Countries, if such a claim would work.
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  Not talking about Easter but shouldn't jw's be giving a public talk about the death and resurrection of Jesus this time of the year?

  by nowwhat? in

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  after all we do know the date when this occurred unlike his birth.

  isn't this the foundation of the christian faith?

  and the biggest event in mankind's history?

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  Phizzy

  The Death and Resurrection of Jesus are the fundamental, foundational teachings of Christianity. Why would you expect JW org to go in to either too much ?

  JW org only pretends to be Christian for business purposes.
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  Cities of Refuge

  by menrov in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i was for no particular reason thinking about this topic.

  i search on google if the concept of cities of refuge is also documented outside the bible.

  i did not really find it.

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  Phizzy

  Could well be just part of the Myth created when the Bible was compiled after the return from Babylon. They wrote a lot of stuff that was not Fact, the Exodus etc and made up stuff about the conquest of Israel and the extent of the Kingdom of Solomon etc, so maybe made these Cities up ?

  If you have the time, you could check the real History of the named Cities, or have you done that ?
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  Spiritually Weak Ones Are Bad Association according to the Governing Body

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

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  after you read the words of jesus in mark 2: 17, you will see that the contrast between the teachings of jesus and the governing body.. .

  you clearly read what's written in the bible, but the society is always twisting and bending scriptures to their benefit.

  here is stephen lett talking about ''spiritually weak'' members and twisting jesus's words teaching on sinners:.

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  Phizzy

  The funny thing about the "Spiritually weak" label is that those people were often in my experience the ones who were , looking back, partially awake, and so had stopped faking it.

  The ones judged to be "spiritually strong" were usually faking it, we had Elders, Pioneers and "strong" Publishers who I know were faking ministry time, so what kind of moral standard did those people have ? did they really believe in Jehovah ? surely if they did they would have been afraid to lie about what they did in " his service" ?

  I'll admit there was the odd, zealous, 100% believer, but they were rare as Rocking Horse Poo, so the ones we were supposed to associate with were Fakers, Liars and Cheats.

  No wonder I was always found among those considered " Bad Company".
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  Jehovah's Witnesses are a breakaway

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
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  let me follow the trial.

  in 1931 rutherford started jehovah's witnesses.

  be before that.. bible student and they merged before 1917 with russelites and they merge with adventists, and then miller in 1844.before that be disperse into baptist and other denominations.

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  Phizzy

  Thanks for Posting that PDF Slim, most interesting !

  One quote in it from a work of 1861 interested me because of the writers use of the word " Truth" ,

  "The number of those in Rochester who love the truth is small. Those comprising the little ecclesia have mostly come to the truth through much tribulation of Millerism, Marshism, Cookism and Storrism and I judge from the bad road they have travelled they have had sufficient experience to enable them to endure hardness as good soldiers and to contend earnestly for the faith."

  I wondered if he was using it that way, the same way JW's and Mormons do, because already these various groups referred to their interpretations as " The Truth" ??

  The conclusion of the PDF is nicely done, the writer stressed the honesty of belief of the men from the various factions, and says " they just could not agree on the details" . How similar to the various groups today who have sprung from Adventist roots ! they only vary one from another in small details.
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  Jehovah's Witnesses are a breakaway

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  let me follow the trial.

  in 1931 rutherford started jehovah's witnesses.

  be before that.. bible student and they merged before 1917 with russelites and they merge with adventists, and then miller in 1844.before that be disperse into baptist and other denominations.

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  Phizzy

  Rutherford took over in a Business Coup of doubtful legal force, and got away with it, by being a bully I would guess.

  Many who had followed Russell, and still called themselves Bible Students left, especially after the 1925 debacle, about which Rutherford admitted " I made a bit of an ass of myself didn't I ?". ( I think he meant arse).

  The followers of Rutherford were not much greater in number than the Bible Students when Rutherford strove to distance himself from them, and further from Russell, by instituting a new name.

  His successor, Knorr, followed the methods of Corporate America, and drove the business model to success, via profitable printing and selling of literature, and making money from Conventions.

  If Rutherford and Knorr had not been so interested in $$$ and more interested in really being a Christian Org. the JW's would probably not number many at all today.

  With regard to your points in the O.P. the line you trace is more accurate and truthful than what I saw in the WT mag a few years ago where they traced back through Russell and then selected religious figures during the intervening Centuries until they got back to the 1st Century, a most spurious Line of Succession and History indeed !