anybody know something about vat 4956?.
nebuchadnezzar's 37th year matches the year 588 bc?
any independant astronomer can test it and it only matches 568 bc.. .
Whoever this deluded girl or guy "scholar" is, she/he is acting like a troll here. Many many times before have all the rubbish claims that come from "scholar" been refuted, but we have to go over the same stuff, because the motive is I reckon to confuse a J.W reading here in to thinking there is some substance to the arguments of the ironically self named "scholar".
There is not.
anybody know something about vat 4956?.
nebuchadnezzar's 37th year matches the year 588 bc?
any independant astronomer can test it and it only matches 568 bc.. .
For detailed evidence from Assyrian and Babylonian records proving that Jerusalem was destroyed in 587 B.C., see the book The Gentile Times Reconsidered.
anybody know something about vat 4956?.
nebuchadnezzar's 37th year matches the year 588 bc?
any independant astronomer can test it and it only matches 568 bc.. .
question: what does the watchtower society's history of prophetic speculation prove?.
how would you respond to this answer provided by paul coom... yesterday on quora?.
"our organization has never been a prophetic speculator.
more bad press for the borg in australia.
this is on the webpage of the national broadcaster:.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-06-13/austraila-talks-trust-religious-figures-dropping-covid-pandemic/100202940.
I like the way this is a nicely balanced and fair article, it doesn't come over like a screaming Tabloid one would, and is therefore more likely to get the attention of believing JW's, and make them more uncomfortable with sticking to their beliefs, and their Organisation, neither of which they are able to defend.
just because you believe something as truth, it doesn’t make it truth.
religious leaders may be admired and believed but they could be dead wrong.
politicians can spout out “facts” that support their truth yet once further evidence comes through these facts are questionable.
Simon's succinct Definition of " Truth" is excellent : " Truth survives the fire of intense scrutiny and critique and is both logically and factually accurate."
We have to add the caveat that "truth" is not Absolute, it is just possible that new Facts may emerge which modify, or very occasionally even overturn, what we previously thought of as "truth".
This is more so in our own time, because of the speed with which modern Science is making new discoveries.
But, if we really have subjected our "Truth" to the " fire of intense scrutiny" and that scrutiny has been carried out by Experts in the field which we are questioning, then we can be sure, if our "truth" survives this, that it will suffice at the present.
To not do this is to leave ourselves wide open to being manipulated, controlled and totally suckered by false claims, if our Education on things comes only from the MSM, and random people on the Internet, we are likely to be as ignorant and enslaved as we were as JW's by some different, but equally insidious nonsense.
so you all probably heard that the awake magazine is back, .
https://www.jw.org/en/library/magazines/?contentlanguagefilter=en&pubfilter=g&yearfilter=.
and one of my jw relatives said they were told by some elders that meetings and field service will resume before the end of the year.. they said this covid virus was a test, like when the romans breached jerusalem and retreated, only to come back later and sack jerusalem.
Zeal can soon disappear, when the pointless reality of "Witnessing" by the methods they now use seeps through in the consciousness of a JW.
Covid has brought people face to face with the reality that they must not waste their lives.
someone made reference in another post that the awake magazine had ceased publication.
maybe i missed it since i have not been on here as much in the last 6 months.
is this true?
A memory just came back to me, of myself as a young person offering the Mags at the Doors, and hiding the Watchtower UNDER the Awake because I knew some people said " NO THANK YOU !" as soon as they saw the name "Watchtower" ! The "Awake" title was not so well known, and disliked, I reasoned.
The necessity for such deceit must have added to the growing Cognitive Dissonance that I had. I was always ashamed that my family were JW's, and hid the fact that I was (nominally) too, from anyone that I could.
to be a witness you had to accept whatever spiritual food was being dished out.
even if it didn’t make any sense, we were expected to believe.
now that we are out of the cult, do you find yourself a person who doesn’t just accept the status quo?
" That however takes a couple of hours and who has time? "
I agree, it can be time consuming, often a time-saver is a trusted Fact Checking Site, ( some are not so good, none are infallible!), but sometimes, where it is a life and death matter, as the case of that fraud Mikovitz was, then the time is worth it surely ?
With her balderdash it only took a couple of clicks to find out she was not qualified in the necessary fields to make the judgements she claimed to be able to do, and that what she said was Scientifically wrong. But as I said above, sometimes it does involve a degree of time and effort where someone has gone to a great deal of effort themselves to make it seem as though their claims are genuine.
The more you do it, you do, without doubt, develop a good Bullshit Detector, but, some will continue to be lazy, and continue to be fooled and led by the nose.
i think the excellent thread on the wandering jews having to defecate outside the camp could have explored further implications, such as animal faeces, and also the fact that when women are in a group they cycle (menstruate) together.
imagine what the place was like with their attitude towards a menstruating woman, or with the disposal of the "rags".how did they dispose of all the placentas, etc.
?where are the skeletons of the millions of people and animals?
Thanks Doug, though I have long been aware that there is no Archaeological proof of the "Wanderings" , which there would be had they occurred, I have never before thought about how preposterous is the whole concept of the Story is.
I do think that the Hebrew/Jewish people who first encountered these fantastical stories took them with a pinch of salt from the start ! at least, I hope they did !
