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  On the current migrant crisis

  by LoveUniHateExams in

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  thousands of migrants have come to england this year, already beating last year's total.. some may have fled syria and other war-torn countries; others are economic migrants.. let me try to get my head around this phenomenon: migrants are relatively safe in france and other countries.

  they then leave the relative safety of continental europe and risk their lives and that of their children by crossing the english channel in rubber dinghies.

  there's just no fixing stupid, is there .

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  Phizzy

  I heard this earlier today " You do not put your children in a dinghy if they are safer on the land".

  Migrant "Crisis", in what way is this a "Crisis" ? This has been blown up by the MSM and Patel and others to deflect attention from other matters.

  A few thousand people seeking Asylum here is not a crisis.

  Bandicoot above is just repeating the crap of Enoch Powell's " Rivers of Blood" speech.

  Racist Right Wing rhetoric is better off being on nasty Right Wing Sites than on here. Or is this now a Right Wing Trump loving place that the likes of Nigel Farage would feel at home being a part of ?
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  What’s Your Prediction For Covid & Its Consequences?

  by minimus in

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  will we close down again?

  will we be masked forever?

  will we be required to get vaccinated over and over again?

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  Phizzy

  What interests me is how our experience of living in, and through a pandemic may change Society.

  I am hoping that the majority view that we need to be responsible in our own actions, to protect ourselves, but , importantly, to protect others, will remain.

  Before the Pandemic people coughed and sneezed regardless of spreading illness to others, I hope that selfish, slobbish attitude is a thing of history.

  I am hoping that stupid Anti-vaxxers and conspiracy Theorists will have lost any traction before the next Pandemic.

  I live in Hope.
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  2700 years ago Jews ate pigs

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
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  from haaretz newspaper:.

  what does a pig skeleton discovered in jerusalem say about first temple era jews?.

  the argument here is that sanctions on eating pork were only introduced in the 2nd temple era.. so what does that tell you bout biblical accuracy.. .

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  Phizzy

  The "Gerasene" swine story is a Literary trope. Look it up. But it did enter my mind for a moment, that story, but in the parable of the prodigal son the son had to travel out of Judea to keep pigs.

  I think by the time of Jesus eating Pigs was a no-no, but obviously in much earlier times, when the Mosaic law was supposed to be in full sway, the Jews knew nothing about any such ban !

  Which is further proof that the Jewish Bible was thrown together at a very late date.
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  2700 years ago Jews ate pigs

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  from haaretz newspaper:.

  what does a pig skeleton discovered in jerusalem say about first temple era jews?.

  the argument here is that sanctions on eating pork were only introduced in the 2nd temple era.. so what does that tell you bout biblical accuracy.. .

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  Phizzy

  The find of one skeleton surely does not prove they ATE the meat of the Pig does it ?

  Personally I don't doubt they did, and as said in the O.P, the Jewish Bible was compiled after the return from Babylon, as a Nation Builder, so the Levitical ban on eating Pork may well not have existed until the Editor/Compilers of the Jewish Bible wrote it in.
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  Jesus, without sin and a perfect human being ?

  by smiddy3 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  how could he be, regardless of how god impregnated mary, as she was a sinful human just like the rest of us according to the bible.. mary was subjected to the adamic sin like all other humans, so jesus had to at least be part sinner himself.. to believe otherwise is just deluding oneself imho .. the only way jesus could have been really without sin is if god created him the same way he created adam.. what do you think ?

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  Phizzy

  " Christianity was invented, adopted by the Roman Empire as a control mechanism, and imposed on the citizens as the official state religion."

  And by then of course it had evolved in to a very different belief System to the one taught by Jesus. and adopted much that was condemned by what he taught, and how he lived.

  Those who claimed to be Christian, followers of Jesus of Nazareth, were certainly not by that point, and subsequently.

  I think your equating the thoughts of Jesus with those of Gautama Buddha I agree with, plus I do not think that Jesus of Nazareth was anything more than a very great man, but that is a wonderful thing to be.

  
  
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  Splane`s war rhetoric

  by inbetween09 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the last talk o the saturday convention of jw was already often the centre of discussion, with all the name calling, logical fallacies and fear mongering.

  however, it was interesting, not just what and how splane adressed the matter, also what he actually had to admit.

  1) he had to admit, that the org is actually loosing court battles, left and right.

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  Phizzy

  How on earth did you simply guess that Punky ?

  I am hoping this talk will do more damage than good to the Org, it was certainly Talks etc on this sort of theme that added to my Cognitive Dissonance, and so contributed to my eventual waking up.
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  Splitting furs

  by Jofi_Wofo in

  1. watchtower
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  i'm half listening in on my wife's zoom meeting.

  in my decade+ in the org, i don't remember ever getting into such minutia about jw hunting rules.. apparently, it's ok to kill an animal to use its skin as a clothing accessory, but it's not ok to kill an animal to use its antlers as a wall decoration.. not mentioned in the talk: whether or not its ok to kill an animal to wear its antlers as a hat.. .

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  Phizzy

  Lots of J.W's around the World ignore this kind of nonsense from the G.B. Their control only goes so far with those with more than two sparking brain cells.
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  From Reddit…What rumors were reported about you after you stopped attending meeting?

  by Biahi in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i didn’t hear any about me, my dad was there to squash any of that.

  but, a guy who left on his 18th birthday, moved cross country, had the rumor started (by elders), that he was now in prison for selling cocaine.

  lol, he’s an artist in california.

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  Phizzy

  They could not find any form of wrongdoing that explained my leaving. And they always will never face the thought that I left because it simply is not " the truth", no, there must be another reason.

  A rumour went around that I had left to start my own Religion ! When I heard that one , I said, " Well, what a great idea ! there is Money in that !".
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  Just the Flu eh?

  by Slidin Fast in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/04/fit-and-healthy-man-42-from-southport-who-rejected-vaccine-dies-of-covid.

  this has been widely reported by left and right wing news papers.

  just food for thought..

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  Phizzy

  The young man in the Article is reported as saying " I wish I had taken the Vaccine", he obviously had been offered it, his age group has. He was young, healthy, and with no underlying health problems. Yes , deaths such as this poor chap's are rare, but it could be YOU !

  The wilful ignorance of many may well kill them, the evidence for the efficacy and safety of these vaccines is plentiful.

  Someone said we have the Freedom to refuse, yes, but in so doing you may well kill someone else. Freedoms come with responsibilities. We as individuals have a responsibility to help move forward the return to normal life, the more who are unvaccinated and spread the disease by that and other irresponsible behaviour, the longer that return will take.
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  Were you 100 Percent JW?

  by Iamallcool in

  1. jw
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  were you 100 percent jw?

  what caused you to leave the cult?

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  Phizzy

  I have written a long answer to this question on Minimus' similar Thread, about did we believe the Witnesses were the one true religion, but no, I was never a 100% believer, from a very young age I found the explanations of how a small Cult following Judge Rutherford fulfilled some great bible prophecy too hard to swallow.

  Of course they subsequently changed some of that, but I still could not swallow the "new light".

  I was embarrassed by "100% JW's", they seemed to be so gullible to me, and to speak in platitudes and gushing praise of what I saw as a very imperfect religion, even my own relatives who I respected in other areas of life.

  I am proud to say I was never 100% a JW, ashamed to to acknowledge it took me WAY too long to fully wake up and leave.