with all the bethel leaks.
i started to think about the levels of pimos with in bethel as apposed to the rank and file.
would there be higher rates of pimos bethel due to seeing the more unsavoury side of it.
I think seeing the unsavory side of the WT by living in Bethel has been an eye opener to many, but many of these still believe it is Jehoobers org. and put it down to "imperfect men".
We had a lad from our Congo 30 years or so ago, go the Bethel, when he had been there for about a year, he said to me, "There is nothing Spiritual there". To my knowledge he is still a J.W. I think many are like this, eyes partially opened, but they do not look further in to it.
the expression "jehovah god" has always seemed strange to me.
even when i was a jw, i found the term awkward, and never used it myself.
both words are nouns intended to be synonyms of each other, unless the name "jehovah" is being used as an adjective, which is also weird.
Let's remember in the case of the O.T the writers, who were the Jews that came to Judah after the Babylonian Exile, they may have incorporated, and edited and redacted earlier Works, but they are the Writers.
They were well aware of the other gods worshipped by the people they settled back among, and they were trying to establish Yahweh as their god, with no other to be worshipped. So the text they came up with made it clear, not only that it was Yahweh that was being written about, but that he was THE god to worship. Obfuscating the truth that Yahweh was adopted quite late into the basically Canaanite Pantheon their Israelite ancestors worshipped.
there is mention on a wikipedia article that there was a 2006 revision of the nwt.
is this true?
what differences are there?
" Many readers on this site know that the WT has on many occasions revised the text of some of their publications without saying in the publications that it is Revised. Examples of numerous such revisions have been documented on this site. "
One stark example of this, and a blatantly dishonest one, is where, in the Bound Volumes, they have changed something embarrassing, to hide it, that they did say in the actual magazine we got.
They had to do a special Print Run with the dishonest new version, then Bind that in to the Volume !
I showed one such example of this to a guy who came round to "Shepherd" me shortly after I left, and he said " I see nothing wrong with that " !!
I imagine that any learning is focussed upon learning various National and International Laws, but in looking for ways to circumvent those Laws, in a way that does not result in the W.T losing Court Cases, and paying costs and perhaps compensation to Victims of what they do.
Hardly showing respect for "Caesar's Law" is it ?
It is exactly the same as smart-arse Lawyers and Accountants who circumvent Tax Laws, i.e. Morally Wrong.
wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
This >> " but face it: the wt prediction game as inspired truth, or a spirit directed group is over. "
The WT./Org. "predictions" have failed over the years, very consistently, I cannot think of ONE that came true as they expressed it, if you take the prediction in full.
Exactly the same applies to the Bible itself. Not one came true of the real predictions, not one.
If they were a "spirit directed" group, they would know how to read the Bible like adults, i.e. Taking proper note of the context, the time in which the writer lived, the time of writing, the culture of the day, the Theology of the time, and the Agenda of the writer etc.
They do none of these things, one of the chief errors is not acknowledging WHEN a work was written, Daniel being written in the mid 2nd Century BCE. for example, not Centuries before that time, as it pretends, or that the Gospels were all written after 70 C.E, apart from some of the earliest Gospel, Mark, where even that was edited and added to after 70 C.E, and so on.
To approach Bible interpretation in a childish and totally non Scholarly way, means they cannot ascertain what the Holy Spirit is directing them to do, the Bible, as they admit, being their only source of "Spirit direction".
The 1914 teaching has been 100% demolished, very ably by Jeffro, and many others, it needs no further attention, the same with any J.W teaching, they are not teachers of Truth.
i know this subject has been talked about lots over the years, just thought i would share a recent finding from canada.. while visiting with a group of friends, an elder (don’t recall how the subject came up) mentioned the local body had voted to allow brothers with beards be allowed to give talks from the platform.
(it was a very close vote).
the direction given was for each congregation to decide for themselves if that is now acceptable.. so some congregations will be for, and for many it will not.. it’ll probably be a long time before we see any pictures on the watchtower where they’re allowing this though..
" Would not raise an eyebrow around here ".
They are a parochial lot, the other side of the Big Pond, Canada not SO bad as the insular, ignorant (generally) USA.
I wore a beard for many years here in the U.K, in the 70's and 80's, while serving as a M.S. and giving P.Talks, home and away. I have a letter from the org. about 74 ? saying that it was a decision for local Elders, and that they cannot make Rules about Dress and Grooming for the Worldwide "Brotherhood" as a whole ! They seem to try to do that though, don't they ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haxrybhjbhk.
handled very well indeed!.
This needs widely sharing on other J.W themed Sites !
Well, anywhere on-line you choose !
It clearly shows Slippery Snake Gillies lies Under Oath !
since the resumption field service letter now my shutin wife gets a call that a group will stop by to visit after service.
same pattern as old, finish out time.
where were they before when she was having mental breakdown without nary a phone call..
" Just don't answer the door. When they come around."
Great idea ! this is not even rude, they invited themselves, they are unwanted.
wt claims that satan was thrown out of heaven in october 1914 precipitating ww!
and the end times.
a small problem with that is ww1 started on july 28th 1914 whilst satan was still in heaven picking his nose.. how did we not see this and waste years of precious life?
massive new document written by wt, 837 pages, meant for arguments vs officials and media to defend the disfellowshipping arrangement.
found in the casefile in norway.
meant to be secret.. .
Thanks so much for this, incredibly useful for many reasons, invaluable !
