An old technique, but proven to work, we see it in advertising, and political rhetoric and propaganda. The Org. love it.
Posts by Phizzy
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15Honest Hearted Ones
by Sea Breeze inthere are certain wt terms that sound biblical but really just puff up the pride.
hundreds of times the wt has used the term honest-hearted in their literature.
it sounds biblical, if for no other reason because we hear it so often in jw circles.
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question for those who either aux pioneered pioneered
by enoughisenough inhow many of you would have spent the hours "pioneering" if it weren't for the pats on the back and being looked up to as someone special in the congregation?
i will admit that back in late 1970's i attempted to aux pioneer during a campaign because it was promoted and seemed the right thing to do,but i didn't get the hours and it was stressful trying to...and i didn't feel like a cheerful giver.
i never attempted it again.
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Phizzy
Looking back, I guess I did it because it was the "right thing to do", back in the late 1960's. My older siblings had both Regular Pioneered, so I did for a while, then dropped down to Aux, one month on, next month off, to earn money while "off".
Before long I started courting my wife to be ( she is still here ! nearly 52 Bloody years, and she won't take the numerous hints) and had to earn money to pay for our Wedding and gawd knows what, she was no good with money, at the time.
I only did one more stint of Aux. in the late 80's I guess, I really don't know why for sure, it wasn't to impress, or "the right thing to do" or anything, I had got beyond that by then. I must give my motive some thought, but suspect it may have stemmed from the Elders exhorting us to Pioneer, and not doing it themselves, so I picked on an Elder I knew hated D to D, and got him to sign up, to "help" me !
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Is the governing body of Jehovah's Witnesses REALLY the "faithful and discreet slave" of Matt. 24:45-47?
by Roger Kirkpatrick inthesis: when someone who is given a responsibility mistakes that responsibility for authority, bullying is very likely to occur.. jesus spoke an illustration recorded at matthew 24: 45-51 which well illustrates this thesis.. jesus asked, “who really is the faithful and discreet slave whom his master appointed over all his domestics, to give them their food at the proper time?
happy is that slave if his master on arriving finds him doing so.
truly i say to you, he will appoint him over all his belongings.
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Phizzy
The Parable of the Discreet and Evil Slaves is.......... guess what ?........ A PARABLE, not a prophecy. To make it a prophecy is a nonsense, and logically would mean that all of the recorded parables of Jesus were prophecies.
In a vain effort to bolster their claim that Jesus' parable is a prophecy, and refers to the G.B of J.W's, the Org. did attempt to prove just that, the prophetic nature of most of Jesus' parables. Their attempt was obvious arrant nonsense, and has been abandoned in recent times, except for this one parable.
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No part of the world
by Lost in the fog inthe wt calls itself christian while at the same time insisting that its witnesses don't mix with other christian groups but remain separate.. to be no part of the world.. i was mulling this over recently in my personal bible reading.
in the first century that demarcation would have made sense because apart from your fellow worshippers the rest of mankind were going to be jewish, roman, polytheistic, pagan, or (i guess much like today) didn't really care.. christians had no worries about meeting up with other people who believed in jesus the same as they did even if there were minor differences depending on who had first taught the gospel message to them.
but nowadays there's not just one christian group against the world, there's lots of "christians" out there.
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Phizzy
There is the account (story) in one of the Gospels where someone is preaching about Jesus, but is not of the Apostles or disciples directly associating with Jesus, Jesus says to let him carry on, for "whoever is not against us, stands with us" ( I paraphrase), but that is the attitude that must have pertained in the early Church as it grew, and various Sects became evident, called "false Apostles" by Paul, teaching a different Gospel, or set of Doctrines, to Paul.
But nowhere are these Christians called part of the "Kosmos", or World, the world is the people who do not have among them anyone believing in , and teaching the gospel in some form or another, or pagandom we could say.
The J.W org ignores that Gospel story, and lumps together all who are not J.W's, as "the world", which goes against Scripture, and Christian practice.
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Phizzy
The concept of the Special Relationship was given a boost by Churchill, when he used the expression. But the reality has been that the relationship has often been shaky, both Governments opposing the other on occasion over military action etc.
It is doubtful now that Intelligence sharing will be at the level it used to be, we are a leaky ship in that regard in the U.K, as was the U.S under Trump of course.
Trade links have been all but severed by Johnson and Gang's attitude to N.Ireland. and other things.
All in all, there is still a kind of concept of a Special Relationship, witness Biden's tweet saying so, but the reality is it is a very shaky and weak alliance, the two Nations , particularly now, are nothing like a "Dual World Power" as the org. labels them, and never really were.
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Jehovah's Witnesses and Apostates
by tfjw injehovah's witnesses basically define the term "apostate" as someone who was once a member of the "organization" (a jehovah's witness) but no longer follows the teachings, rules, regulations and practices.
the society gives their official definition in the following manner: "apostasy is abandoning or deserting the worship and service of god, actually a rebellion against jehovah god.
some apostates profess to know and serve god but reject teachings or requirements set out in his word.
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Phizzy
Apostasy as used in N.T Greek refers not to a person merely "standing apart" from her or his former Christian Faith, just ceasing activity with the congregation, it is the idea of withdrawing from communion with the church deliberately, and is more often associated with going to a new or former pagan belief in preference to the Christian one, including Idolatry of course.
I think the Org does in words, in its literature, draw a distinction between an inactive person, and someone embracing opposing beliefs to the Org. The problem is that in practice, even the merely inactive are treated by the Rank and File J.W's as though they are out and out Apostates. And the org. wants this to be so, even if the reasons for inactivity have nothing to do with Doctrine, but, as is more than likely, to do with the way the Org and its members work, "mistreating the flock" in many ways, that individual is as dangerous from the Org's point of view as someone like me who can demolish their house of cards that is their teaching, in a heartbeat.
So the Org. uses "apostate" as a demonising word, aimed at all who no longer actively support the org, to trigger certain behaviour in the faithful, that will ensure they remain entrapped in the Cult.
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Honest Hearted Ones
by Sea Breeze inthere are certain wt terms that sound biblical but really just puff up the pride.
hundreds of times the wt has used the term honest-hearted in their literature.
it sounds biblical, if for no other reason because we hear it so often in jw circles.
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Phizzy
The expression "honest-hearted ones" is used as part of the Mind Control technique used by the Org. it is a thought stopper, especially when used like this "Honest-hearted ones accept..... " , or worse " honest-hearted ones do not question or doubt... ".
They use it upon the members, and the Public, no one likes to think they are not honest-hearted, so the gullible go along with the nonsense the Org spews out after using that expression.
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Upbringing
by punkofnice ini was brought up as a born-in(tm) here in the uk.
it wasn't until i was 50 that the scales fell from my eyes, i woke up, got da'd from the cult and my wife was advised to leave me by the elders whom i had served with on the boe.
one of which i know wanted to schtupf her.
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Phizzy
Similar for me , born in, late 50's when I woke up, nearly 60 wasted years ! I never felt anger at my parents, they did the best according to their lights.
What I find frustrating is when I have to hold my tongue with J.W family, I know all that they know, but know a ferkin' LOT more !
And when they spout a bit of nonsense, I have to keep quiet, or risk widening the already existing rift. It doesn't come naturally to me, keeping silent anyway, but especially when nonsense bullshite is being spoken.
Frustrating, but one day, maybe, some of 'em will wake up, will I be able to refrain from laughing at them ? For not doing so earlier ? I doubt it, but I ain't perfect am I ?
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Will Ukraine win?
by Fisherman ini was under the impression that it was going to be a short war, that russia’s military would indeed subdue ukraine’s forces quickly but that is not happening.
seems that russia’s military power is much less than it’s reputed to be.
no guess how it will all end..
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Phizzy
Will Ukraine win ? First off , there are never any winners in War.
Will Ukraine push Russian forces out out their Country ? maybe.
My fear is that the Russian forces are merely pulling back for the Winter, and will dig in, until the Spring. And then a big offensive will be mounted again.
The only weakness in this tactic is that a good number of Soldiers will be given leave , return home, and tell the truth about the war, which most Russians do not get. It is my hope that Public Opinion in Russia will turn against this War, and bring it to an end.
That may be a vain hope. I still think a Spring Offensive will go ahead anyway, but hopefully that will fail dismally, for Putin.
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faithful and discreet slave appointed in 1919?
by enoughisenough in12 when did jesus appoint the faithful slave over his domestics?
to answer that, we need to go back to 1914—the beginning of the harvest season.
as we learned earlier, at that time many groups claimed to be christian.
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Phizzy
Bartolomeo3 days ago
"if in a future time they were to review and scrap 1914 the date of 1919 and the related teaching would automatically fall as a domino."
and for those of us who know the 1914 thing is just laughably crazed nonsense, because we spent a few minutes investigating it, we can already determine that the G.B are self appointed Charlatans.