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Posts by Phizzy
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3Growing up as a child in Closed High-Demand Groups
by LostintheFog1999 ini came across this fascinating article and thought it was worth sharing it with you.
i grew up in that religion so a lot of it struck a chord with me.. https://www.spiritualabuseresources.com/articles/born-or-raised-in-closed-high-demand-groups-developmental-considerations.
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Do You Think Trump Is Done?
by minimus incertain forces appear to be trying to make sure donald trump never runs for president again.
some republicans are clearly abandoning trump and of course the democratic press has been saying trump is done!
is trump’s goose cooked?
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Phizzy
Trump is done. Even loony Republicans will not select a convicted Traitor.
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JWs unrecognisable compared to my grandfathers time
by ExBethelitenowPIMA inmy grandfather who has been dead for 37 years would not recognise the borganisation today.
he would turn in his grave if he knew the end didn’t come by 2023.. back in the 1970s he really believed in the 75 thing.
he was so disappointed and almost blamed everyone else why the end didn’t come.
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Phizzy
My father always thought it disgusting and wrong that they were virtually worshipped by some, so did I ! I remember Knorr coming to London when I was a young kid, and giving a Talk, a bit of an unscheduled one IIRC, and there was overly long applause when he took to the Platform, before he spoke one word ! Father did not clap AT ALL !
What my father thought in later years, with the Direct Worship of the G.B, he never said, but as person he never changed his mind more than once or twice in his life, about anything.
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New Blog - Divorce has been filed from JW husband!
by madisoncembre inthe divorce from the jw husband has been filed (finally!).
here are my musings on the subject in short form:.
still feel a bit sad about the entire thing.
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Phizzy
Well done Madison ! may you find happiness and fulfillment in your future life ! I hope the Divorce process goes as smoothly as possible. And I know it will be so difficult for your girls, but they have a wonderful mother's love to see them through.
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England: Failure to Report Child Abuse to be Illegal
by notsurewheretogo inpeople who work with children in england will be legally required to report child sexual abuse or face prosecution under government plans.. .
the move - which is subject to a consultation - was recommended last year by the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (iicsa).. .
the home secretary told the bbc she wanted to correct one of the "biggest national scandals".. .
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Phizzy
I do hope that the JW org does not hide behind their previous disingenuous and poor excuse that they don't actually work with children and that it is the parents responsibility to protect their own children.
(I hope the Law is tight enough to cover such pathetic excuses.)
What utter tripe that excuse is ! The number of CSA cases over many decades show that they have a problem with not implementing a proper Child Protection Programme. Not just a bit of paper, a "policy", an actual Programme.
Small local Clubs near me, Sporting etc., like Clay Pigeon Shooting, and Football etc. ALL have a proper active Programme with an Appointed Child Protection officer, and STRICT rules about proper "chaperoning" if the C.P. person is not present, a parent or a guardian appointed by the parents must then be present.
If small clubs, with less than 50 members can do this, WHY CAN'T the J.W ORG ???
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To All Those Keen To Tell Us About Their Beliefs
by Simon inwe seem to have had an influx of religiots - the people who want to tell us all about how we / the wts / whoever are wrong, wrong, wrong about everything and how right they are.
they obviously have special insight, or voices (probably voices, right?
) telling them the real truth.. as proof, there is inevitably a wall of random scripture references and quotes.. sorry, but we're not here for that.
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Phizzy
Just to get back on to the Thread's O.P, I wish to thank Simon for Posting his ongoing actions to stop religious nuts cluttering up this Site. They can find somewhere else to preach.
Of course intelligent discussion of individual Texts and how the J.W interpretation, or often, usage of them is wrong, are helpful to J.W's who visit, and those who are just leaving. That I presume is still welcome.
But thanks again Simon, and for your work in keeping this place going ! I hope you earn a Shekel or two from the Advertising, at present some rather pretty girls in underwear are vying for my attention, in an Ad on the right, very welcome !
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Were Bible writers flat earthers?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA injob 26:7 he stretches out the northern sky over empty space, well should it be the southern that has empty space under it?.
the north pole has the earth under it?.
the south pole has empty space under it?.
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Phizzy
You have not read my Post just before this have you ? Lazy Boy !
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Secret Elders Book? Bwahahaha!
by NotFormer ini remember a couple of decades ago when the internet was relatively young and the wt was at war with it, that they were battling to keep the pay attention book secret, commencing legal action against anyone who published it online (and of course, trying to out anyone who leaked it).
i think it was a norwegian skeptics organisation who had it available for download and dared the wt lawyers to come after them.. so i guess the new shepherd the flock book came out to try and put the genie back in the bottle and reassert some air of mystery and secrecy back into the equation.. so i typed jehovah's witnesses secret elder book into google.
colour me gobsmacked!
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Phizzy
Where it is important is where it exposes all the ways they have to DF you, there are more pages on that than any on actual Shepherding ! And where it plainly shows they STILL give wrong direction in cases of CSA and other abuse, violence etc. still saying 'phone Legal first !
The appropriate Authorities, trained and qualified to handle such things, Morally should be contacted straight away, even if there is only a rumour, especially of CSA.
ANY delay allows the Perp. time to put pressure on the Victim (s) and any witnesses, this HAS happened !
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Were Bible writers flat earthers?
by ExBethelitenowPIMA injob 26:7 he stretches out the northern sky over empty space, well should it be the southern that has empty space under it?.
the north pole has the earth under it?.
the south pole has empty space under it?.
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Phizzy
" It's a bit of a stretch to conclude that their word for 'circle' was used because they didn't have a word available that described a sphere or a ball. Can you think of any language that doesn't have different words to describe disks and balls. "
THAT is the point, they DID have a suitable word for a Ball shape in Hebrew, the Writer chose not to use it, because he envisaged the Earth as shown in my previous Post ! He used the word for circle , which if I recall was also used for a platter.
Which is why it is disingenuous, and totally inaccurate for the JW 's to claim they knew the real shape of the Earth !
You can search the old Threads on this if you type in "A Sphere is not a Circle ", the first guy to mention this actually used that as his username IIRC.
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2023-Price-Per-Publisher!
by Atlantis in2023-price per publisher.. .
https://imgbox.com/jshf0csu .
atlantis!.
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Phizzy
" Per publisher, per what? Per month? " It was that way when I was in, years ago.
I remember being disgusted when this system came in, I always felt donations should be voluntary, o.k. the crafty money-grubbing bastards have made it look voluntary for the individual, but it is an oblique way of putting pressure on each J.W.
The really demonstrate Love don't they ? ....... Love of Money.