You almost sound, P.S, as though you view the "Church Fathers" as some sort of Authoritative arbiters of what is Canonical Scripture and Doctrine that carry weight ?
Or am I reading too much in to your words ?
Posts by Phizzy
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21Christians Encouraged to Read 'Pagan' Works
by peacefulpete inclement of alexandria.
the stromata, or miscellanies.
book vi.
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The Jehovah's Witness religion has ''Jumped the Shark''
by RULES & REGULATIONS inwhat does jump the shark mean?.
the phrase “jump the shark” is a term in pop culture that originated from the tv show “happy days” and is used to describe a decline in quality.
it refers to the moment when a tv show or other product has reached its peak and starts to decline in quality.
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Phizzy
I have always loved Monty Python, and my favourite Movie of all is "The Life of Brian" , which shows the M.P. Team's erudition, and satirical and comic skills, at their very best.
I long to live long enough to point out to one of the few, by then, remaining J.W. John Cleese type Salesmen, that what they are purveying is indeed a "Dead Parrot" !
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The Reason Behind Recent Watchtower Changes
by Vanderhoven7 ineric wilson's video is worth a view.. https://youtu.be/iil4fryuczk?si=f566n0tdqgpqc2ok.
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Phizzy
" I wonder how fast they’d fold if they lost their tax-exemption. " Oh please please may that happen !
I'm sure the Tax Exemption and the Tax Rebates they get here in the U.K,(i.e any Contribution from a Tax Payer will get a 25% tax Rebate from the Government paid direct to the "Charity", so each £ contributed is worth 25% more to the Cong. ), keeps individual Congregations in the "Black", and probably the Branch too to some extent.
The Org. is hoping that by changing a lot of their practices and "Public Face" they will Sucker in more gullible idiots to donate. Will that work, sufficient to outweigh the loss of Tax Exemption ? I doubt it.
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Is Jesus God?
by Sea Breeze ini know that a lot of historical names have claimed to be a god.
but, jesus arguably claimed to be god.
scripture says he's the creator.
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Phizzy
I didn't know there was a "Gospel According To Vanderhoven7" !
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Have I Drifted Too Far?
by sinboi ini was shocked, really shocked.
what i am doing now is so acceptable to the friends around me.. my friends are all doing it.
it is so normal in the society,.
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Phizzy
" if he has read my post properly " that is a problem with a lot of idiots on-line, they half read something, and then get typing and vent their spleen over something you did NOT say, or do, it is their laziness to blame.
Do not berate yourself for your fling with the young lady, these things happen at that age. You were a boy, not an Adult. O.K , at that age we still know it is very ill-advised to have sex, but in the heat of the moment, it happens.
I advise you to thoroughly examine the teachings and practices of the J.W's, and then any guilt will leave you, they do not have, or teach, Truth.
I did that, and successfully expunged my JW personality, and thoughts, and fears, and now I am 100% "worldly", it is as though that young man I was as a J.W was someone else !
Which is true, as you found, when we are "in" to any degree, we cannot be who we really are.
I am now the Real Me, and a Happy Humanist Atheist.
All the very best for a bright, fulfilling future, free of any Evil J.W influence !
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Is Jesus God?
by Sea Breeze ini know that a lot of historical names have claimed to be a god.
but, jesus arguably claimed to be god.
scripture says he's the creator.
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The New Busy Work
by NotFormer infor a hundred years the slaves were kept from having the time and energy to question anything and associate anywhere where they might be exposed to alternative views by having to keep up the busy work of going door to door.
that avenue is drying up.
and policy is changing.. the wt needs new busy work to keep the sheep engaged without thinking.. the wt fancies itself as an up and coming movie studio.
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Phizzy
The Org. DOES have to come up with a new "Busy Work" though doesn't it ? for the same reasons as the earlier iterations of "busy works", i/e to stop the "faithful" from having time to think, and then, Heaven Forfend ! Research.
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Derek Ohare was murdered. R.I.P dear friend
by Newly Enlightened inhttps://youtu.be/667n4uwbk4e?si=1dvek-qfw7ebf9up.
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Phizzy
If you read the Articles WC I think his murderer was a relative, I may have gleaned that from a news Report on the TV though.
But apparently neighbours heard raised voices, so I guess it was an argument, not necessarily just one the "went wrong", the guy stabbed Derek many times. sounds pre-meditated to me, but we shall have to wait for the Court Case.
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Conversation with old friend
by LongHairGal ini recently had a conversation with an old acquaintance from the congregation i used to attend.
we talked about the recent changes in the 2023 annual meeting.
i especially pointed out the one about getting rid of hourly reporting on monthly time slips.
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Phizzy
LHG said " I Hate being right all the time ", yea I know, bit of a bugger isn't it ?
I was similar to you in not swallowing the B.S. It was all supposed to be over in 1975, I was 25 at the time. The actual month they pinpointed was Oct. '75.
In August '75 I started my Private Pension, to supplement what I knew would be a paltry Sate Pension when I reached age 65. Of course I got criticism for my lack of faith , but this was AFTER the '75 stuff had failed !!
One guy said to me "But you will pay all that money in, and never collect your Pension, Armageddon must be very near now", so I replied "Well fine, if Armageddon comes, I won't need the money will I ? ".
I wonder if he ever did anything about his old age ? If I hadn't, my wife and I would be in dire straits now. I have been collecting my private Pension for a decade now.
Bloody Idiot JW's !
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Waiting On Jehovah First Mentioned?
by Ron.W. inyes, waiting on jehovah for him to handle a problem/ doctrine etc.. when did the jw's first start saying that?
they've been saying it as long as i can remember.. what scriptures do they trot out to back that teaching up?
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Phizzy
That expression goes back a long way I guess, I think probably used by the Org. itself in a WT Mag ??
That always sounded weird to my English ear, I had a mental picture of me carrying a tray with a Drink on to Jehovah ! With me in a Waiter's Uniform ! But I have heard many English J.W's come out with that one !
I am sure it was started as a Mind Control phrase, for all those who were saying, to quote the Buybull : "But where is this promised presence of his ?".