For those interested in more on Leviathan, and the Chaos Conflict Myth, then this great thread by the Poster "Leolaia" is informative, she no longer Posts here sadly.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/68098/skinny-on-leviathan-rahab-monsters
there is a new trinity teaching that says jesus is a separate person but at the same time all three are one.. https://youtu.be/jdok0gedjau?si=bbdwoprdpzvzwkfz.
this is basically the same as watchtower teach that jesus is so much like his father in every way that you could almost call them the same.. things have changed from when i was pioneering with the old trinity brochure.
For those interested in more on Leviathan, and the Chaos Conflict Myth, then this great thread by the Poster "Leolaia" is informative, she no longer Posts here sadly.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/68098/skinny-on-leviathan-rahab-monsters
i know that a lot of historical names have claimed to be a god.
but, jesus arguably claimed to be god.
scripture says he's the creator.
" It is obvious that Jesus is Jehovah God's only-begotten son. also called only-begotten god. " You are using the VERY POOR N.W.T version of the Bible evidently, .....to prove a point ?
You really MUST try harder !
clement of alexandria.
the stromata, or miscellanies.
book vi.
You almost sound, P.S, as though you view the "Church Fathers" as some sort of Authoritative arbiters of what is Canonical Scripture and Doctrine that carry weight ?
Or am I reading too much in to your words ?
what does jump the shark mean?.
the phrase “jump the shark” is a term in pop culture that originated from the tv show “happy days” and is used to describe a decline in quality.
it refers to the moment when a tv show or other product has reached its peak and starts to decline in quality.
I have always loved Monty Python, and my favourite Movie of all is "The Life of Brian" , which shows the M.P. Team's erudition, and satirical and comic skills, at their very best.
I long to live long enough to point out to one of the few, by then, remaining J.W. John Cleese type Salesmen, that what they are purveying is indeed a "Dead Parrot" !
eric wilson's video is worth a view.. https://youtu.be/iil4fryuczk?si=f566n0tdqgpqc2ok.
" I wonder how fast they’d fold if they lost their tax-exemption. " Oh please please may that happen !
I'm sure the Tax Exemption and the Tax Rebates they get here in the U.K,(i.e any Contribution from a Tax Payer will get a 25% tax Rebate from the Government paid direct to the "Charity", so each £ contributed is worth 25% more to the Cong. ), keeps individual Congregations in the "Black", and probably the Branch too to some extent.
The Org. is hoping that by changing a lot of their practices and "Public Face" they will Sucker in more gullible idiots to donate. Will that work, sufficient to outweigh the loss of Tax Exemption ? I doubt it.
i know that a lot of historical names have claimed to be a god.
but, jesus arguably claimed to be god.
scripture says he's the creator.
I didn't know there was a "Gospel According To Vanderhoven7" !
i was shocked, really shocked.
what i am doing now is so acceptable to the friends around me.. my friends are all doing it.
it is so normal in the society,.
" if he has read my post properly " that is a problem with a lot of idiots on-line, they half read something, and then get typing and vent their spleen over something you did NOT say, or do, it is their laziness to blame.
Do not berate yourself for your fling with the young lady, these things happen at that age. You were a boy, not an Adult. O.K , at that age we still know it is very ill-advised to have sex, but in the heat of the moment, it happens.
I advise you to thoroughly examine the teachings and practices of the J.W's, and then any guilt will leave you, they do not have, or teach, Truth.
I did that, and successfully expunged my JW personality, and thoughts, and fears, and now I am 100% "worldly", it is as though that young man I was as a J.W was someone else !
Which is true, as you found, when we are "in" to any degree, we cannot be who we really are.
I am now the Real Me, and a Happy Humanist Atheist.
All the very best for a bright, fulfilling future, free of any Evil J.W influence !
i know that a lot of historical names have claimed to be a god.
but, jesus arguably claimed to be god.
scripture says he's the creator.
for a hundred years the slaves were kept from having the time and energy to question anything and associate anywhere where they might be exposed to alternative views by having to keep up the busy work of going door to door.
that avenue is drying up.
and policy is changing.. the wt needs new busy work to keep the sheep engaged without thinking.. the wt fancies itself as an up and coming movie studio.
The Org. DOES have to come up with a new "Busy Work" though doesn't it ? for the same reasons as the earlier iterations of "busy works", i/e to stop the "faithful" from having time to think, and then, Heaven Forfend ! Research.
https://youtu.be/667n4uwbk4e?si=1dvek-qfw7ebf9up.
If you read the Articles WC I think his murderer was a relative, I may have gleaned that from a news Report on the TV though.
But apparently neighbours heard raised voices, so I guess it was an argument, not necessarily just one the "went wrong", the guy stabbed Derek many times. sounds pre-meditated to me, but we shall have to wait for the Court Case.