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  Thoughts on Likely Upcoming Changes in the Org.

  by Phizzy in

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  i am thinking that the "ten year plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario.

  the org.

  has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.. so i think they will let the recent changes "bed in" for a while, maybe a year ?

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  " I don't see them dropping the teaching altogether, but "refining" the significance of 1914 and talking less and less about it as being significant as time goes on. "

  That is my assessment too, they have been trying to minimise the significance of the 1914 rubbish for many a year, by mentioning it only as a "given" for example, and stressing that regardless of that date and doctrine we are still in the "Time of The End".

  They will continue that latter tactic, and hope that 1914 fades in to a dim memory, as did 1925 and later1975.

  But that is the only the least of their problems, and can be dealt with later.

  For now, we on the outside, and PIMO's, will wait and watch all the upcoming changes, and the outcomes. With interest and mild amusement.
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  Thoughts on Likely Upcoming Changes in the Org.

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am thinking that the "ten year plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario.

  the org.

  has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.. so i think they will let the recent changes "bed in" for a while, maybe a year ?

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  Usually the G.B are only reactive, and usually too late and doing the wrong thing, but it really does seem as though they have advice from outside Experts, and are following that advice so as to head off the looming Cash Flow problem.

  Whether this "Plan" has any timescale attached to it by the experts we don't know , but the G.B will naturally wish to drip feed the changes in.

  So we may see changes coming thick and fast if they begin to panic that none of it is working well or fast enough.
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  The coup against Tony Morris in order to make major changes?

  by Badfish in

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  it’s been a long time since i’ve kept up with anything jw-related.

  but just a couple days ago, i heard about all the new changes—beards, shunning, etc.

  i was surprised, so i asked an old friend who i hadn’t spoken to in ages what happened.

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  The way I understood that the G.B worked was a two-thirds majority was sufficient to carry a motion ?

  But that does not preclude the idea that one G.B member by being forceful may not have held back some of the stuff they wanted to do.
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  Lack of Joy

  by Gorb in

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  because of some respect for family members, we visited the memorial today.. a moment i always think, could i go back into this religion?

  we entered the hall and some said a short hello.

  and with short i say short.

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  And the Elders would not have all that left over Wine to drink !
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  How long before we see a Bro. wearing one of THESE ??

  by Phizzy in

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  " and visible tattoos ? " that may be a thing too before long ? maybe a tasteful one done by some of the "sisters" will be first, I wonder if some have a hidden one or two already ? To test the waters, there are temporary tatts. like this :

  
  
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  How long before we see a Bro. wearing one of THESE ??

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  I doubt this, in Pic. above, will happen in the USA but maybe in Europe ?

  I remember, well over 30 years in our Congo. a Bro. started wearing one, along with slightly long hair, he was just making a come-back after an absence from attending, and was about to give a Bible Reading on the TMS, some of the Elders thought that he should not be allowed to give his Reading, but the TMS Overseer reasoned with them and he was allowed to, and wore it for a number of years.

  He was eventually D.F'd for a minor matter, and after he got re-instated I noticed he had removed it, for obvious reasons I guess, to speed things up. He had a "smart" (shortish) haircut too.

  But now ? How long before some do ? and how could any Elder do anything about it ?

  "You won't be considered for "privileges" will not carry any weight, and maybe it will be a way for Bros. to AVOID "privileges" in the future ,as wearing a beard no longer works !
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  How long before we see a Bro. wearing one of THESE ??

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  Thoughts on Likely Upcoming Changes in the Org.

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am thinking that the "ten year plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario.

  the org.

  has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.. so i think they will let the recent changes "bed in" for a while, maybe a year ?

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  " Depends on how panicked they are."

  I was wondering that, if they perhaps have realised they need to retain JW's, and perhaps make a few converts, QUICKLY because if they don't, in a short while they would face a massive Cash Flow problem
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  Thoughts on Likely Upcoming Changes in the Org.

  by Phizzy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am thinking that the "ten year plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario.

  the org.

  has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.. so i think they will let the recent changes "bed in" for a while, maybe a year ?

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  I am thinking that the "Ten Year Plan" that some have spoken of is the most likely scenario. The Org. has to both attract new members and retain as many existing ones as possible.

  So I think they will let the recent changes "Bed In" for a while, maybe a year ? before introducing the next "Biggie".

  I think that may well be a relaxation on celebrating Birthdays and Christmas, which can be introduced as a "Conscience Matter", thus new converts can carry on, and J.W's that want to can celebrate those events too, those that don't can refrain, and feel superior.

  I have spoken to a good number of ordinary normal people, in J.W Speak "Worldly" people, who mentioned not being able to celebrate as they have for all their lives being the main reason for their rejecting the J.W org.

  Thoughts ?
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  The first rule of beard club...

  by GrreatTeacher in

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  ...is you don't start growing a beard in the spring!

  you start growing it in the fall, keep your chin warm in the winter, and then shave it off for warm weather.

  at least that's how it works in my household and in the northern hemisphere where the gb are.. i have the sneaking suspicion that there is going to be a steep learning curve for many.. will they know to trim it along their jawbone properly?

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  The thing that makes me laugh about this reaction to being allowed to grow a beard, and the mass taking up of the opportunity by J.W's, is that it is behind the curve again.

  The motivation was to get the J.W's to look less weird and more like normal people, not some weird Cult.

  But in the rest of the Western world, beards are far from ubiquitous, and it seems now far less fashionable than a couple of decades ago.

  The J.W guys have made the Org. look more like an Amish type community !

  The unforeseen consequences of every move by the Org. are really hilarious to watch !