00DAD and Cedars. It would be great to be able to read it as an official doc. I knew I'd read this on here somwhere but couldn't remember where. I think it's pretty dynamite. The WTS actually using it as a 'get out of jail' card. Even if the case itself came to nothing, the fact they said that the FDS can't be prosecuted because it doesn't exist! So if it doesn't exist.. in their own words...
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The great unanswered question - WHO chose the Governing Body to serve as representatives?
by cedars inwho is the governing body?.
put simply, the governing body purports to be a small group of anointed men (currently numbering 7) who represent a much larger group (numbering the thousands) of anointed individuals living on earth today.
in nearly every reference to their position of oversight over the worldwide brotherhood, the governing body refer to themselves as being representatives.... .
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Shy JW at the door ... the pain of it
by MrMonroe insomeone tweeted today: "a jehovah's witness who is shy to people at the door.
those few words paint such a sad picture.
how many jws with little self-esteem and self-confidence, particularly born-ins who have never known anything different, are sent out into neighbourhoods to knock on the doors of strangers and speak to them, knowing the householder resents them being there?
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LOL! MrM.. I've had my share of those too! When I was a teen I worked with one older brother, actually a very nice brother (till he went knocking on doors).. used to put his foot over the doorstep, try to stop them closing it and once they had he would stand there talking to a closed door! LOL! CRINGE!!
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I had a scan at 11 weeks pregnancy. The baby was shown in full dancing around, all 2" of him. Arms and legs waving about seemingly enjoying himself. Do I believe abortion is wrong? Yes, definitely.
A baby is a baby, inside or outside the womb. Just because he can't survive outside the womb, doesn't make it any less a human being.
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A Born ins challenge to develop a "post cult" personality.
by stuckinamovement ina born ins challenge to develop a post cult personality.. mentally leaving the organization can be traumatic for a number of reasons.
one of the biggest challenges for born-ins in finding their pre cult personality is that our entire personalities are based on the religion.
there is no such thing as a pre cult personality for us.
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Good post SIAM.. as always! To be honest I don't think I'll ever truly know 'who' I am. There are so many different things going on inside that I sometimes haven't got a clue what is the 'real' me and what isn't.
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Steven Unthank: What do we really know?
by SweetBabyCheezits ini'm gonna play the skeptic today on a topic that is painful for a lot of people on this forum.
my intent is not to stir anything up but to make sure facts are confirmed.
bear in mind, i'm sickened by the wt's role (and the heirarchy down to elders) in child molestation cover-ups.
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I feel happier knowing it WASN'T one of those children... but then why say it was??
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I need your advice to reach my daughters!
by Cirkeline ini just spoke to my eldest daughter (i'll name her liv here) on the phone.
i am still shaking all over my body.
partly cause i'm scared to death, partly cause i feel there is a small hope.
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Hi Cirkeline, I found these links on here.. and added them to my favourites. All the WT history you could wish for. I'm sure you could find something to help you. Try reading In Search of Christian Freedom by Ray Franz, he uses a LOT of the Society's old publications to back up his arguments. If you tell her where to go in the Society's own literature she cannot call it apostacy.
http://www.strictlygenteel.co.uk/
http://www.catholic-forum.com/members/popestleo/jwhistory.html
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Steven Unthank: What do we really know?
by SweetBabyCheezits ini'm gonna play the skeptic today on a topic that is painful for a lot of people on this forum.
my intent is not to stir anything up but to make sure facts are confirmed.
bear in mind, i'm sickened by the wt's role (and the heirarchy down to elders) in child molestation cover-ups.
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tornapart
A picture of 'A' child could be acceptable... a picture of 'The' child is not. What about her rights of anonimity? To me this is just adding to her abuse (if it is her)
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Steven Unthank: What do we really know?
by SweetBabyCheezits ini'm gonna play the skeptic today on a topic that is painful for a lot of people on this forum.
my intent is not to stir anything up but to make sure facts are confirmed.
bear in mind, i'm sickened by the wt's role (and the heirarchy down to elders) in child molestation cover-ups.
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I must admit when I saw the picture I was shocked. Here in the UK a child's identity is protected at all costs. Why would a picture be posted? Surely her identity should be totally off limits. And if it's not her then why is it being used? I don't know enough details about the case to be able to comment on it but I do know what a terrible thing it is that has happened whatever the outcome. I just feel very uncomfortable about the picture.
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What could trigger a large proportion of JWs at once that this religion is a scam
by Mr Facts ini am just thinking if there could ever be anything that would raise consciousness in the minds of millions of jws that this a completely hoax.
what could spark millions of them at once, any thoughts?..
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Selling their property, sticking the proceeds in a hedge fund (which they've been looking at) for a quick gain. Doesn't work out, they lose millions... all comes crashing down... R&F left reeling from the scandal....
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the Ireland branch--> issues over the years
by WildeLover inhi all.
the irish branch has had lots of drama over the years from john may in the 1980s to the recent removal of practically all the branch committee in the mid noughties to its being closed down quite recently.. i heard on the grapevine that two of the branch committee had actually come to physical blows and there was blood on the carpet.. also many many witnesses spoke of the totalitarian environment there.. does anyone have anything further to corroborate or add to this?.
wildelover.
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Love Father Ted too Cedars! I can just imagine a punchup between the Brit and the Irish!!... I can just imagine the Brits wanting to 'take over'.. isn't that what they've always done? (and I confess to being a Brit LOL)