Posts by tornapart

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Do the R&F really know where the WT came from?

by tornapart in

this is eye opening!

no wonder they want to keep the history of the wts a secret!!.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjcijm2cquk&feature.

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This is eye opening! No wonder they want to keep the History of the WTS a secret!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJCijM2cQUk&feature

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Hedge Funds

by tornapart in

i know this has been covered before but i came across this video and feel sickened by it..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr2jn0ntmjy&feature.

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Yes, I read it Phizzy.. they tell us not to gamble and then do it themselves! Pharisees!!

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Hedge Funds

by tornapart in

i know this has been covered before but i came across this video and feel sickened by it..... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr2jn0ntmjy&feature.

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I know this has been covered before but I came across this video and feel sickened by it....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr2Jn0NtMjY&feature

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At last....I made the connection with an old friend...who is a practising Pagan

by Pams girl in

im the nervy, anxious type.

i suffer with panic attacks and sometimes my agoraphobia cripples me.

the organisation effectively isolated me fo a long time.

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I have a pagan friend too Pam's girl. Even while I was a JW. We had a lot of other things in common and we both respected each other's beliefs. She was/is such fun.... always has me in stitches. :)

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Attended 2-Day Circuit Assembly--Highlights

by Cadellin in

since my spouse is an active elder, i accompany him to sads, cas and das, at least for the time being.

anyway, i thought i'd share some of the more odd/disturbing bits from the latest "sanctify god's name" ca.

there wasn't anything particularly new but the tone toward porn, higher ed, bad assoc, "habitual" murmuring and harmful gossip is definitely hardening, as are the cautions against social networking.

Strategically, the GB should accept 587

by I Want to Believe in

right now, the 587/607 is a major weak link; doctrines can be argued in circles for days, but the overwhelming evidence for 587 is damning to their entire theology, and it can be found with very little effort.

however, if they just bite the bullet and "new light" a 587 date for jerusalem's destruction it solves a lot of their problems:.

-removes their main weak secular point of argument.

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Thay had their chance in the 70's but did nothing. I can't see them doing it now.

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My rambling story

by MsGrowingGirl20 in

i am 18...my mother has been studying the bible with jw's for over 20 years now.

she has never been baptised for various reasons.she wasn't married at the time to my abusive and drunkard father...when she started studying she got married to him--then she left him 4 years after.since then almost everywhere we moved mommy was approached by the jw's and she regularly had discussions with them .. when we bought our current home and the jw's appproached us 3 years ago,mommy was working day and night and so she told them to study with me.the next sunday we started going to meetings...all the meetings...i became a publisher in 4 months and was baptised 8 months after...i was told by everyone that i was progressing well...because of my mom's hectic work schedule ( single mother 4) we never had a close relationship so i immediately became really close to my study conductor...i was taught that religion and the people at the kh had to take precedence over any family members especially those who were a part of the world..from then on i never went to any family gatherings,concerts and i began to 'look down' on my mother.after all her heart condition wasn't right--why wasn't she baptised?

our relationship plunged---i even told her that i wanted to leave this house...she knew that i felt closer to my study conductor and so she tried to start back her study and get baptised....again she was dating someone and contemplating marriage with him but my study conductor kept on drilling into her head 'marry only in the lord'.

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MsGG.. I'm moving in the same direction as you.. and am discovering so many new things in God's word and so much more about Jesus, I actually find it quite exciting. In my eyes the GB have taken his position and that is the biggest aspect I hate about it. I'm sure other believers on here will know exactly what you mean. We've been on a treadmill, not of pleasing God or his Son (even though we felt we were) but of working for the organisation who can never be satisfied, we always have to do more more more. I realise now that the whole point has been totally lost.

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Those on JWN still serving as elders...What if?

by Kensho in

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apostates undercover elders (i know there are some professed elders on here) have you ever handled a jc envoling a publisher viewing sites like jwn or others and who question the gb etc.. and if not what if you were assigned a jc involving apostacy?.

i would think this would be almost, if not an impossible situation.. kensho.

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EE.. wish you were in my cong! Then if I got 'caught out' I'd have someone fighting my side for me.. :)

I think being an elder and knowing it's all a sham, must be an incredibly difficult place to be and I really feel for you...

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The Bible and Genetics

by sabastious in

i recently read in discover magazine that scientists have found a way to turn on and off memory cells in our brain.

they say that this is good news for people with post traumatic stress disorder, which i was diagnosed with a few years ago.

this, to me, brings up the ethical question of what did the traumatic events in my life, and the lives of others, add to society as a whole?

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Very interesting post Sab.. love the painting too and I can see what you mean..

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New member

by Kool Jo in

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friends

i've been lurking here since late last year...was very hesitant to join the forum because of fear that satan would control my pc.... .

i'm born in, but always had my little doubts about "the truth" since i was young, but went ahead and got baptized ect.... .

i stumbled upon this site while looking for a km and initially thought it was a jw forum, but after seeing some of the titles of various threads, i thought to myself "i'm on an apostate website".

tornapart

Kool Jo, there's a website called jwstruggle.com that's really good for JWs who are having doubts, fading or left and want answers, the 'what do I do next' or 'what do I believe now' kind of thing. I've found it really helpful. Some good articles there. Have a look if you haven't already.