Cover of the 1984 Awake (think it's a May 15 one). Got pics of 70 &80 year olds and title said they wouldn't die before the end.. that was nearly 30 years ago.....
tornapart
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Questions critical of 1914
by biometrics ini have a relative coming over because he's concerned about my spiritual health.
i said i have some legitimate concerns about the watchtower claiming to be god's representative on earth.
we agreed to do a frank and open (if that's even possible) study of 1914 doctrine, and the "nu lite" about the overlapping generations.. does anyone have good questions or points to shoot-down the 1914 doctrine, and the "nu lite" on overlapping generations?
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The Watchtower Society actually WANTS witnesses to take blood.
by Sapphy inshocking?
hear me out.. acts 15v29 "blah blah blah... abstain from blood".
for years the millions of jehovah's witnesses worldwide have been fed stories of "brave witnesses" who "fought to stay true to their convictions" by refusing blood transfusion.
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tornapart
We're allowed blood fractions but not the 4 major components, yet plasma is 92% water, red blood cells are simply haemoglobin with a membrane, white blood cells are found in mother's milk and clotting agents are taken from platelets. Does this mean shortly the 4 major components will soon be allowed? Then if those 4 components are allowed won't it make sense to allow whole blood. I find the whole stance on blood totally mystifying!!
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tornapart
This was the whole thing.. if anyone is interested. I thought it very moving.. :)
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This was my 'Sign'
by MsGrowingGirl20 inin my previous post i mentioned that i'm staying in the org because i think i got a sign from god...some of you asked a lot of questions about my sign and even shared the society's view on asking for signs which i didn't know.. i didn't disclose exactly what the sign was.. some of you asked me what it was and even stated that i know that you all would pick apart and prove that my sign was just a frivolous excuse to hold on to the org.. maybe you were right.. so i've decided to tell you all exactly what it was---no embellishments or exaggerations.
i would love to hear your opinions since i'm still in a terrible mess.sometimes i'm 100% this is not the truth then other times i'm 60%....i feel if god was giving me a sign i'd be 100% this is the truth you know?.
so i woke up that morning and organized to go meeting.
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tornapart
Dear sister, I can feel your pain and confusion. Sometimes I feel the same troubled feelings. I can't tell you what to do or how to feel, each one of us is different and responds in a different way. All I know is that having learned all that I have there is no going back. At least mentally. You are a pioneer, I'm an elder's wife. We have people we love, family, friends that we fear hurting, fear losing. At the same time we know things are very very wrong. What do we do? Do we stay and feel sick, troubled and hurt or do we leave and lose everyone we love? Does God want us to stay or does he want us to leave?
There is no easy answer. At this moment I feel I have to stay and put up with everything and try and do things my way. Not to get sucked in to all the things that are wrong. Try and speak when I can of all the things that are wrong. Show others the things that I believe are true from God's word. One day things might change and I will know when that time comes. For now I do what I can do. I pray to God and keep close to him, I've developed a relationship with Jesus that wasn't possible before, that makes me happy. I read my bible and none of the WT publications except a brief look to keep up to date with what's going on.
One day we might be free but for now stick with it until you have to go. As for your young cousin, teach him God's word, teach him about Jesus, the things you believe but try and keep him from baptism if you can. Most of all don't promote the organisation... it isn't from God!
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Hello Andersoninfo - who writes the current WT ,mags?
by 1914BS inor is that top secret?
i mean you probably have the connections but can't post these names because of a betrayal of trust even though you might be regarded as super apostate in the bethell circle of friends.
i was a witness for the first 25 years of my life and i always thought that the wt mags were written by the fds.
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tornapart
Btt..Found this really interesting! Thanks for the info as always Barbara. :)
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What Are You Looking For, Something That Makes Sense Of Kingdom Hall Conduct?
by Bubblegum Apotheosis ini know it's hard to challenge your beliefs you have held onto so long, what else is out there in this world, that makes sense?
once upon a time, we had a edge over the world, we had "game" but this is fading.
think about the talks you heard at the "one day, two-day or summer conventions", were you upbuilt and told how valuable you are?
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tornapart
We had one stand in CO, he got disfellowshipped for a 2 year affair that he was having while he was doing his CO duties.
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Greetings from Candace Conti
by AndersonsInfo incandace asked me to tell you thank you for all your kind expressions of support.
this really means a lot to her.
she wants you to know that she is coping well with all the stress and excitement, even though she's had years of anger and frustration because of being abused for so long, first by the molester, and then by the wt.
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tornapart
You fought and won with great courage. Your perseverance and refusal to give up will no doubt help many more victims of abuse decide not to give up their fight and settle out of court. The damage done to abuse victims is two fold, first by the perpetrators of this crime then by the WTS in their attempts to cover up the abuse 'lest it bring reproach on Jehovah's name'. I wish you all the very best in your future Candace and hope that all the dreams you have now come true for you.
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Greetings from Candace Conti
by AndersonsInfo incandace asked me to tell you thank you for all your kind expressions of support.
this really means a lot to her.
she wants you to know that she is coping well with all the stress and excitement, even though she's had years of anger and frustration because of being abused for so long, first by the molester, and then by the wt.
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Any more fond (not so) DC memories?
by outsmartthesystem inmy oldest child was barely 4 months old and not an easy baby.
she cried all the time....and getting her to sleep during the day was a pain.....especially in a facility that was 80 degrees with a/c.
on sunday afternoon of the dc....knowing we had a two hour drive home (she also didn't sleep in the car well).....i went to an "off limits" area with her.
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tornapart
Don't know whether I can call this a fond memory or not but it was certainly an experience. As a small child at a DC in Edinburgh. We camped in a huge campsite. It was freezing cold, a canvas tent and hard camp beds with army blankets. A bucket to wee in and a bowl to wash. It was a long trek to the wash block. The assemblies then lasted 5 days, morning, afternoon and evening sessions divided by dinner break and tea break where you stood in long queues for hours and ended up with stew, mash potato, mushy peas and stewed prunes and custard. I was too small to stand up at the long trestle tables that the grown ups could, so sat underneath the table on the grass (it was all in huge marquees)...... ahhh them were the days! LOL
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A heart-wrenching comment from the JW survey...
by cedars ini've just received this comment from a country in the south china sea.
i'd rather not be more specific than that.. the english is poor, but the message is heart-wrenching.
any who question whether ordinary publishers wrestle with doubts need only read this message.
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tornapart
He loves Jehovah, he loves Jesus Christ. He has lost his faith in the GB. Like so many of us. Cedars you are a very articulate man and you have written some very upbuilding and encouraging pieces. Here is someone who has given their life to what they thought was their God only to find out it's been given to an organisation. Now they are discovering the truth. I'm sure you will find the right words to say. I understand about your father, the same thing has happened for me and my mother. It's a very hard position to be in. Wish you all the best!