Posts by tornapart

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7/15 WT- Insane, Far Fetched, Narcissistic "New Light " about the FDS

by flipper in

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12 years ago

i know this article has been discussed, re-hashed upside down in past threads.

but there were at least 2 points i discovered in here that i felt were pertinent and important to bring out concerning the total control and narcissistic tendencies that these wt leaders possess on the governing body, i.e.

alleged " faithful slave " .

12 years ago

tornapart 12 years ago

"It is VITAL that WE RECOGNIZE the faithful slave. Our spiritual health and OUR RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD DEPEND on this channel." .....says the WT

"I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. No one comes to the Father except through me."... says Jesus..... John 14:6

"Those who make up the FAITHFUL SLAVE WILL GET this appointment when they receive their heavenly REWARD, becoming CO-RULERS with Christ. ".... says the WT

"You know that the rulers of the nations lord it over them and the great men wield authority over them. This is not the way among you but whoever wants to become great among you must be your minister and whoever wants to be first among you must be your slave".... says Jesus... Matt 20:25-27

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Shocking talk from 2013 District Convention urges parents to shun disfellowshipped children

by cedars in

12 years ago

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yldwe_6jsu.

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cedars.

12 years ago

tornapart 12 years ago

What was Jesus real attitude toward wrongdoers? His parable of the prodigal son was quite clear. The father in the parable didn't wait to find out his son's change of heart... whether he was 'repentant' or not. He didn't wait for his religious leader to tell him whether he could talk to his son or not. The father made his own choice and rushed out to meet his son and gathered him in his arms and laid on a feast for him. The opposite was true of the elder son who wanted nothing to do with his brother. Jesus condemned that self righteous attitude.

They make Jesus say what he DIDN'T say... they put words in his mouth.

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When the urge to hit back is stronger than the instruction not to

by steve2 in

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12 years ago

clearly, any jw apologist or jw friendly person who posts on this forum knows full well they are breaking their own organization's policies.

everything else is mere detail.

even before the send button is struck, the jw knows they are doing something the organization has told them not to do.

12 years ago

tornapart 12 years ago

I still think they should actually be encouraged to post though. I've been watching a guy's youtube channel. It's very interesting as he started out like all JW apologists, refuting all the arguements thrown at them by ex JWs. His arguements came across as though he knew what he was talking about. He had a good handle on the bible. After a couple of years of this he suddenly had an epiphany and in his next video he's outside the KH with his letter of resignation. He becomes a full blown apostate now argueing on the other side of the fence.

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What is your favorite bible scripture ...

by Freethinking76 in

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12 years ago

what is your favorite bible scripture that the jws have misinterpreted ?.

12 years ago

tornapart 12 years ago

John 6:68... Peter says 'Lord, WHOM shall we go away to?' JWs say... 'WHERE shall we go away to?'

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Being pressured and getting increasingly stressed.

by NBird in

12 years ago

hello, i'm a 17 year old born in and i'm done with this religion.

one hundred percent.

i came to the conclusion a year ago that i wanted to leave.

12 years ago

tornapart 12 years ago

Someone should only ever get baptised if it's what they really want! (In any religion). If it's not what you want then DON'T do it! Don't allow yourself to be coerced or emotionally blackmailed into something this serious, something you don't want to do. The repercussions will be far reaching. If you leave without being baptised then your parents will still feel they are able to have a relationship with you. If you leave after baptism then they will feel they have to cut you off. Please think seriously about this.

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Is Richard Dawkins an ostentatious acrimonious supercilious pusillanimous calumnious censorious vituperative querulous embittered obsessive and bombastic bully?

by slimboyfat in

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15 years ago

richard dawkins closes down his free-thinking/free-thought site (www.richarddawkins.net) for 30 days to reconfigure it 'because too many morons were contributing drivel' (he doesn't put it quite like that!

) he is then surprised because those self-same contributors call him everything under the sun (i won't repeat the names flung at him on our ultra -refined boards).

he now wants the site more or less 'peer-reviewed' (by analogy with papers to learned/scientific journals having to be vetted by vips).

12 years ago

tornapart 12 years ago

I've watched some of his videos and whether he's right or wrong in what he believes he came across to me as being condescending, patronising and supercilious... put me right off. Just my 2 pennyworth.

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Anyone want to guess the name of our future king

by barry in

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12 years ago

my guess is henry.

12 years ago

tornapart 12 years ago

LOL! @ DD

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Who still goes to meetings and out in field service?

by SloppyJoe in

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12 years ago

just curious as to who on here still regularly attends meetings and goes out in service?

as i sit at the district convention i can't help but think who else out in the crowd is just like me.

doesn't believe what they hear, but are still here..

12 years ago

tornapart 12 years ago

SloppyJoe, I do pretty much the same as you although my FS is Rvs that have had the mags for years and I just pass the time of day knowing they'll never progress to anything else. At the same time no one else will bother them as they will say I call on them. I don't do first call. I go to maybe 3 or 4 meetings a month, don't sing, don't comment, don't do talks. I don't like it but same as you I have family that I don't want cut off from me.

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Anyone want to guess the name of our future king

by barry in

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12 years ago

my guess is henry.

12 years ago

tornapart 12 years ago

I reckon it'll be George, with a combination of Charles, Michael and possibly Spencer as his other names.

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Have your views on gays changed over the years?

by laverite in

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15 years ago

some questions....feel free to answer any or all of these.

have your views of gay people changed over the years?

do you have or have you ever had gay friends?

12 years ago

tornapart 12 years ago

When I was very young I found it more of a 'curiosity' than anything else. As I got older and the JW propaganda kicked in I found seeing two guys or two girls kissing repugnant. I still felt though, that it was none of my business what people choose to do. When I started work there were two guys that were gay (not with each other), one was very camp and the other you would never have guessed. The 'camp' guy was lovely and I liked him a lot, the other guy was horrid. I realised that it doesn't matter what sexual orientation you have, everyone is a unique individual. In the 80's there seemed to be a lot of 'gays' in the music industry and also on TV and I got used to it and got to accept who they were as people and not whether they were gay or not. Since coming on here and reading so many heart breaking stories of young gay JWs and their struggles it made me realise how terrible it is for them growing up in such a homophobic atmosphere. The guilt and shame they feel, the struggle to hide what they are and not be able to be themselves and to be loved and accepted for who they are and the fight within themselves and finally breaking free to be who they truly want to be and live a happy life, something everyone is entitled to. Now I only feel disgust towards those unfeeling, hateful homophobes who can't see the unique person behind the label.

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