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  A Manual for Creating Atheists by Peter Boghossian

  by cofty in

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  a manual for creating atheists offers the first-ever guide not for talking people into faith--but for talking them out of it.

  peter boghossian draws on the tools he has developed and used for more than twenty years as a philosopher and educator to teach how to engage the faithful in conversations that will help them value reason and rationality, cast doubt on their religious beliefs, mistrust their faith, abandon superstition and irrationality, and ultimately embrace reason.

  - amazon.... "boghossian has provided an indispensible chart book for all of us who must navigate the rising sea of magical thinking that is inundating america today.

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  @EdenOne You make some great points
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  I find it hard to see how Jehovah can hate this..

  by Dis-Member in

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  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/james_harrison_(blood_donor).

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  Thanks to ones like him it protects many women/babies. I'm rhesus neg. and was seriously worried when I first found out. Fortunately my first babies were also neg. but my last baby was positive and I had the injection. If I'd had another neg. baby it would have been protected because of this vaccination.

  Many babies, including JW babies have been saved because of this.
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  2 SURVEY QUESTIONS

  by Terry in

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  please answer this question thoughtfully.. question #1:.

  if there were no holy book in existence--what would you or anybody else know about god and how would you know it?.

  question #2:.

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  I'd be just like Dis-member. Or I'd be a pagan very closely attached to nature.
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  Progress made with dad... but he still believes in the blood doctrine

  by ILoveTTATT in

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  so.... my spiritual journey has led me to agnosticism, i really have a hard time believing that the bible, with so many contradictions and errors, and worse, with so many people trying to change its contents and who have actually achieved it, can be god's word.. i personally believe that i should just "do what i do" and live by the motto "yolo" (kidding).... no but really, i believe that i should just try to use my common sense to determine if something is right or if it is wrong.

  with that, many things are simplified.

  opening the door for someone that walks by?

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  I've talked over the blood issue with my hubby. First of all dealing with the fractions. Why can we have fractions but not the main component... for instance leukocytes are found in breast milk and plasma is 55% of blood and 92% of plasma is water! Haemoglobin is now allowed yet it makes up 97% of the red blood cells dry content. Where is the sense?

  Then I went to the account in Genesis 9 of the law given to Noah. It clearly states that if a man sheds another man's blood his own shall be asked back. However God was giving man animals to eat so he was permitted to kill them for food. Of course the case of a life for a life couldn't cover an animal's loss of life so instead he gave the command to pour the blood on the ground, recognising the life came from God and is being given back to God. In the case of giving blood for a blood transfusion or accepting a blood transfusion.. no life is lost! The scripture has been badly twisted.

  It hasn't stopped him carrying his blood card everywhere but he could see the twisted understanding.
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  How can I protect all the secret watchtower books and elder letters on my tablet?

  by KariOtt in

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  i have a ton of secret watchtower info stored on my tablet.

  is there any way with my tablet locked with a password, can someone do a factory reset on it so i lose all my pdf files?

  the boe at hubbys hall are aware i am in possession of secret crap from the watchtower.

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  Could you use a memory stick with your tablet? Transfer the files and then wipe them off your tablet. Hide the memory stick somewhere safe to use when you want.
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  The New Diary of Winston Smith

  by WinstonSmith in

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  we had to go off grid for a time, time and half a time as we thought we had been outed.

  fortunately it was a false alarm, but it was a stressful time.

  i asked for my original diary thread to be deleted in case there could be anything on there to identlfy mrs smith and i. i am always very careful when posting, and am sure there was nothing on there, but felt it best to have it removed in order to be as cautious as a dove.

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  Winston, I felt gutted for you a couple of weeks ago but now things look quite promising. I really hope that even if you don't completely get through to her that she will still want to keep in contact with you. From a mother's point of view, I can't see how any mother can cut off her child, it seems inhuman to me. Your mother comes across as a very warm, lovable and thinking person. I'm sure things will go well for you. Keep it up!!
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  What are you NOT allowed to say as a Jehovahs Witness?

  by The Quiet One in

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  "one of the bible study was listening and singing the song by jason mraz titled lucky with the chorus going like this;.

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  'i'm lucky i'm in love with my best friend.. lucky to have been where i have been.. lucky to be coming home again.. lucky we're in love in every way.. lucky to have stayed where we have stayed.. lucky to be coming home someday..'.

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  You can't say 'Presiding Overseer' anymore... it has to be the 'Congregation Coordinator' or something like that...
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  2 Elders stop by with the "Shepherd Book."

  by DATA-DOG in

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  they said i needed help in selecting appropriate music to re-adjust my thinking.

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  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_trsibcgf0.

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  ROFL!! Too funny! You crack me up DD .....
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  A Manual for Creating Atheists by Peter Boghossian

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  a manual for creating atheists offers the first-ever guide not for talking people into faith--but for talking them out of it.

  peter boghossian draws on the tools he has developed and used for more than twenty years as a philosopher and educator to teach how to engage the faithful in conversations that will help them value reason and rationality, cast doubt on their religious beliefs, mistrust their faith, abandon superstition and irrationality, and ultimately embrace reason.

  - amazon.... "boghossian has provided an indispensible chart book for all of us who must navigate the rising sea of magical thinking that is inundating america today.

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  EdenOne:- However, to set oneself for the goal to destroy the sense of spirituallity, the sense of connection to someone and something greater than ourselves, that is to kill something within us that makes us being uniquely humans. To "kill" God is to kill also part of our humanity.
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  Goodbye JWD/JWN (my last post)

  by slimboyfat in

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  after some considerable thought i have decided that i will no longer post on this forum because i want to return to jehovah.

  thank you for all the kindness and many interesting discussions over the years.

  i wish you all well in the future and the decisions you make.

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  Why do you say that Cofty? You don't think he's serious do you?