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  Sometimes you just want to scream

  by Separation of Powers in

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  well, i have been posting here on and off for a while now.

  it is good to see the progress that so many have made.

  i have appreciated your experiences, your humour, your struggles, etc.. as i sit here today, i realize that i have made progress as well.

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  tornapart

  Last night at the KH I felt exactly the same SOP!
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  Waiting for the JWs to come to my door...

  by Hortenzie in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i read about the new tract distribution and thought to myself how should i react, when they come to my door.

  finally today, after finishing my morning coffee, i got an idea!

  i'll take the tract, look at it, look at them, and with a nice smile rip it up and hand it back to them with :"have a great day!

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  If anyone comes to my door and tries to give me a leaflet about something I'm not interested in, I just hand it back to them and tell them I'm not interested thankyou very much. No need to be unkind to the person delivering it. If that had happened to me a couple of years ago before I 'woke' up, I'd have felt hurt. Ripping up something in front of someone's face that they have just handed to you is not a very nice thing to do. You having wasted 15 years of your life has nothing to do with them.
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  MAJOR DOCTRINE CHANGE IN 1/15/2014 WT ON GENERATION TEACHING

  by EndofMysteries in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the generation scripture no longer is speaking about 'the end'.

  i'll quote it...... side note: tons of lies in this article, i'll point out at the end of the post.

  "yet, jesus words at matthew 24:34 give us confidence that at least some of "this generation will by no means pass away" before seeing the start of the great tribulation.".

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  EOM- "It's a fact that by 1927 to 1931 over 75% after Rutherfords takeover then his failed 1925 false prophecy woke up and left. "

  Can you back this statement up EOM? It would be great to be able to use.
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  Watchtower And Information Control

  by Bangalore in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  information control.. .

  http://web.archive.org/web/20000229154513/www.geocities.com/wallstreet/7209/mind.html.

  according to some experts in "exit counseling" there are four components of mind control.

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  Nice piece. Especially like the last two paragraphs.Thanks Bangalore.
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  Well it is time for me to say GOODBYE!!!

  by mouthy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it has been nice talking with you.but i seem to upset a few because of my faith.. so have a great christmas.... & be good, i wont be here to send you to your rooms .

  i have grown close to many of you.... if i have ever said anything to hurt you sorry!!!!.

  when i kick the bucket i am sure "mary" who ssometimes post will let you know.. mouthy grace gough.

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  Granny Grace.. you are loved by so many on here, whether they still believe in God or not. Please don't go!!
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  Purpose of witnessing and preaching?

  by leaving_quietly in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  1 timothy 2:1-7. first of all, then, i urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgiving be made concerning all sorts of men, 2 concerning kings and all those who are in high positions, so that we may go on leading a calm and quiet life with complete godly devotion and seriousness.

  3 this is fine and acceptable in the sight of our savior, god, 4 whose will is that all sorts of people should be saved and come to an accurate knowledge of truth.

  5 for there is one god, and one mediator between god and men, a man, christ jesus, 6 who gave himself a corresponding ransom for allthis is what is to be witnessed to in its own due time.

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  Problem is, you ask most JW R&F if Jesus is their mediator and they'll say yes. You might also need some back up evidence where the WT has clearly stated that Jesus is only mediator for 144,000.
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  Elder blows a head gasket

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok so today while at breakfast get a phone call fom my daughter asking were i am because an elder/ friend had stoped by my house hoping to see me.

  its been a few months since ive seen this guy and the only one that seems to actually care.

  so anyway he meets me at were i was having breakfast and we start to talk.

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  This is what really did it for me.
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  Could there really be something to the UFO phenomena? Amazing documentary

  by yadda yadda 2 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it's easy to just poo-poo the ufo thing, especially if you're naturally very skeptical after your jw experience as i am, but when you see documentary's like this it seems undeniable that some kind of inexplicable phenomenon is occuring.

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  could vehement deniars of the ufo phenomenon please suspend their criticisms until they've at least watched the whole documentary, to be fair to others who are more open-minded on this subject.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjismjxshpg.

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  A UFO is simply an Unidentified Flying Object. I believe they exist, whatever they are and wherever they are from. Too many people have seen strange things to say it's a figment of imagination. What they are though is another thing. Another 'universe', 'dimension', secret technology, who knows? It would be very interesting to find out for sure! It would be rather scary to be invaded by extra terrestrials though... a sort of 'War of the Worlds'..
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  Apostasy: Year Two

  by Londo111 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/242023/1/a-year-in-the-e2809capostasye2809d#.un6uaxb1kso.

  today is my two-year anniversary of joining jwn.

  whats new with me?

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  You've come a long way in those two years bro! More than I have! LOL

  You're doing a great job with your videos. I think you're so right what you say about JWs. After all, many of them are family and friends we've had for years. They need videos like these, it's ones like this that gets the thinking ones thinking!

  Hope your next year goes even better!
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  Were You Tough On Your Fellow Witnesses?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  when i was younger, i saw things as a young, inexperienced man.

  i thought i knew it all, but time would prove otherwise.

  i believed that as long as you accepted "mother's" counsel, then everyone should just follow jehovah's organization's guidance.. i realized some witnesses actually loved that thought, that it's either black or white.

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  Minimus, I think you would have been a lovely elder... such a shame that all the good ones eventually go. I'm still 'in' and happy that the elders in our cong are all lovely too. Really kind people trying thier hardest to help and care for others against the odds. If that changes, there would be nothinig that would keep me in, family or not.

  Of course they get things wrong sometimes, because they are 'following orders' but I don't think any of them are 'tough'. Like all JWs they have been mislead. The blind leading the blind.