Welcome thedog1.. I too found the overlapping generation difficult to understand and it was the beginning of the end for me. I still go to meetings, my hubby is an elder and he takes the WT sometimes. He knows a lot of my doubts and finds many things difficult to comprehend himself but still believes it's God's organisation. He too uses the phrase 'the current understanding is'.. if he doesn't go along with it himself. I've known 'The truth about the truth' for two years now and am on #8 (leaving quietly's list). It does get harder and harder as each month goes by. I hope you can continue to write here to get some support.
tornapart
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by thedog1 inthis is a very strange thing for me to do.
i have been an active witness for over 25 years.
i currently serve as an elder and i conduct the watchtower study.
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"Jesus is My Boyfriend" Christianity
by cofty inthere is a trend in modern evangelical, charismatic and "non-religious spirituality" that gets dangerously close to erotic love of jesus.. it's something that i first observed during my christian years especially in the lyrics of christian songs and sometimes during open-prayer times.
if you haven't experienced open prayer you are the lucky ones.
everybody adopts the shampoo position - elbows on knees, head in hands - and whoever is "moved by the spirit" speaks up for a while, followed by an awkward silence, followed by two people speaking up at the same time, followed by silence, and so on.. anyway back to the topic, here are a few random examples .... "lord i give you my heart.
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Cofty.. I liked Band's description of you... our loveable but demonic atheist... LOL
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Are Most of the Witnesses That You Know Of Die Hard JWs?
by minimus ini think the remaining ones left are kool-aid drinkers and virtually brain dead..
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The ones I see just seem to be totally weary, trying their best but never feeling good enough. They don't feel there's anywhere else to go.
Btw.. a knacker's yard is where dead horses end up for dog meat.
There is another usage for the word but I don't think it's relevant here. And I'm not going to say... LOL
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Advise needed please
by EdenOne indear forumites, i need your advise please.. i would like to write a letter to the world headquarters of the jehovah's witnesses regarding a subject that i've published an article recently.
i would like to draw the attention of the gb to said article, which i will send in print form (therefore, no attention would be drawn to the website where it was published).. naturally, because i am a jehovah's witness in good standing in the congregation and what i'll be discussing in my letter will be a dissenting view from the official doctrine/practice, i want to protect my identity and i don't want to be harassed by elders or subjected to any sort of judicial investigation.
nevertheless, i would be very interested in reading their response (if any) to my letter.. how can i do that?
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Eden, could you just send it anyway? Without any hope of a reply. It's a good article and who knows, there just may be another 'Ray Franz' in there willing to put his head on the block.
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Advise needed please
by EdenOne indear forumites, i need your advise please.. i would like to write a letter to the world headquarters of the jehovah's witnesses regarding a subject that i've published an article recently.
i would like to draw the attention of the gb to said article, which i will send in print form (therefore, no attention would be drawn to the website where it was published).. naturally, because i am a jehovah's witness in good standing in the congregation and what i'll be discussing in my letter will be a dissenting view from the official doctrine/practice, i want to protect my identity and i don't want to be harassed by elders or subjected to any sort of judicial investigation.
nevertheless, i would be very interested in reading their response (if any) to my letter.. how can i do that?
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Could you send it by e-mail using Abine's 'Mask Me'?
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What kind of books do you like to read?
by tornapart inwhen i was younger i enjoyed reading thrillers.
i've always enjoyed reading history books, particularly of my own country.
these days i enjoy reading books from the best seller list.
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Thanks everyone, some really interesting replies!
@NY- I would like to read a book like that, I've not read much about American history. Perhaps I should start with him.
@likeabird- Yes, those are definitely the kind of books I like too.
@Giordano- I've read The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich. Amongst a few others about WWII. One of the books about that era that gripped me was 'I Cannot Forgive' by Rudolph Vrba. He was a young Slovakian Jew who managed to survive for quite a long time in Auschwitz and finally escaped with a detailed report of what the Nazis had planned for the Hungarian Jews. An incredible story.
@bohm+FLN- I'll have to look that book out!
@Hortenzie- I've been wanting to read some good books on early christianity from a purely historical point of view. I'll keep that one in mind.
@Hortensia- I like mysteries but I have to admit that science books leave me cold! LOL If I want to learn anything about science I try and read articles, or else watch some good documentaries instead. I'm thinking about getting a tablet soon. I guess I'd be able to use that as an ereader too wouldn't I?
@TOTH- I've read a little about Marcus Aurelius. I think his philosophy on life is actually quite modern isn't it?
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I like you more if you are literratte
by usualusername inas a daily visitor of this site i am shocked by how judgemental i am.. .
if someone makes a valid point but does not spell well it colours my judgement.. .
if someone who is a clown has excellent grammar i give them leeway.. as an aside i am a gramaphobe.. .
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The one thing I don't like though, is when someone writes in 'text speak'. Some people are used to writing and reading it but for lots of others it is very difficult to comprehend.
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I like you more if you are literratte
by usualusername inas a daily visitor of this site i am shocked by how judgemental i am.. .
if someone makes a valid point but does not spell well it colours my judgement.. .
if someone who is a clown has excellent grammar i give them leeway.. as an aside i am a gramaphobe.. .
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Shirley, I only meant that it was important in professional writings and not on a public, international forum like this one.
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What kind of books do you like to read?
by tornapart inwhen i was younger i enjoyed reading thrillers.
i've always enjoyed reading history books, particularly of my own country.
these days i enjoy reading books from the best seller list.
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@FLN- I know what you mean about the 'physical books' (as opposed to virtual ones!) There's nothing like having one in your hands and turning the pages and seeing stacks of them on your bookshelves. Unfortuantely, there's never enough room is there?! At least with cyber books you can keep lots of them. Though it's never really quite the same is it?
@Ruby- yes, I love books like that. Historical characters are always so fascinating, especially the ones who have shaped the country we live in now.
@Ouby- that looks like a great read! Thanks
@OND- I like the self-help and human relationship books too. I've got one all about body language.. it's fascinating LOL! And languages too, I've got a pile of various language books, although I've not really mastered any yet LOL!!
@d- I'm half way through Orwell's 1984.. good read!
If anyone else wants to put the name of a book or their favourite shortlist that would be great!
I love reading books about exploration too, so Sir Ranulph Fiennes has been someone at the top of my list. He writes some good thrillers too.
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Awesome! Thanks Bangalore!