My hubby's an elder and he's a good man. Respected and 'approachable'. He goes along with what's asked of him but he does have a conscience and finds some things extremely difficult. He's had many many sleepless nights where he can't tell me what's wrong. Also there is far too much red tape that leaves him little time to do the caring that he wants to do. I would say it's a really thankless job and I wonder why he carries on with it. And so does he sometimes. He's tired and stressed but he feels stepping down will just be letting the others down and be giving them more to do.
tornapart
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Describe What a Jehovah's Witness Elder Is Like
by minimus ini know what they are supposed to be like.
but at this point in time, do you think the elders look joyful?
are they serious bible students?
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Newcomers to TTATT: Beware of "New Study Mode"!
by Londo111 inweve all heard it.
a person starts studying with jehovahs witnesses and love what they are learning so much that they cant stop talking about it.
bubbling with enthusiasm, they spill everything they are learning with their friends and family...or anybody who will listen.
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tornapart
Yes it's so true Londo.... at first you want everyone to know but it's dangerous. If you want to keep your relationships you have to go painfully slowly. In time, even if you can't change what they believe at least they come to accept and respect your new beliefs. But it takes tact, discernment and infinite patience. It feels impossible sometimes but it is do-able. Even then sometimes you can 'drop the bomb'!
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Will firing the DOs be the first step to a new Watchtower?
by Juan Viejo2 inagainst my better judgement, i've decided to share the following as a response to guy pierce passing and the announcement of the elimination of district overseers later this year.. late in january (2014) i got an email from one of my contacts (a fader) who served at bethel for several years, but is no longer at wt hq.
he still has a lot of close contacts within the service department and in other departments at patterson and knows people in all of the ny offices.
i kept this email set aside on a flash drive and haven't shared it with anyone - figuring i'd publish an article about it later this year when i had more time to do it right.
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tornapart
Thanks Juan.... very interesting. The more things they change the better for me to help my family see through it all! I'm sure the same goes for anyone that's got family still in.
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Are You Raising An Introvert?
by darth frosty inits not easy being an introvert in an extrovert worldespecially when youre a kid.
it is even more difficult if none of the adults in the kids life recognize that the child is an introvert.
this doesnt happen only when the childs parents are extroverts, but also with introverted parents who have never understood their own introverted nature.. .
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tornapart
That bottom hamster ball on no1. is exactly how it feels for me with my extrovert sister! LOL
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Need advice for asking a girl out
by DuvanMuvan inwell long story short, i've been meaning to ask this girl at school out for a while but i can never do it because her friends are always there in the way and i would prefer to ask her in person.
we've liked each other for a while (i was oblivious until about a month or two ago) and i'm also i bit worried she'll get tired of waiting.. i was just wondering if anyone had any advice or something that they could give me.
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tornapart
Buy a little card, write in it how much you like her and would like to go out with her. Leave your mobile number in it and ask her to text you if she would like to. Wait and see what happens.
All the best!
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OMG Johnny the Bethelite touched my tentacles!
by RayPublisher inhave you been touched by the tentacles of the watchtower i have and it was not like being touched by an angel!.
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https://youtu.be/ddbggciidwa.
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tornapart
Too funny!! Looks like you two had fun!
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It must have been a brother!
by hoser ini was listening to a conversation of jws recently about how trusting they are with each other and how out in "the world" you have to be ever so careful that you don't put down your purse or wallet for a minute otherwise it will be stolen.. i entered the conversation with an experience that one of my close friends had.
(true story) he was in a public place with a wallet with significant amount of cash and bank card, credit card, id, etc.. somehow he lost or misplaced the wallet, panicked of course.
he went to the police, cancelled all his cards and thought it was gone for sure.
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tornapart
Many years ago I lost a purse in town. I thought it had gone forever. I received a call from the police who had it in their lost property, someone had handed it in. (My phone number was in the purse). Everything was intact down to the last penny. I gratefully thanked the lady in question who had left her address and I sent her some money as a thankyou 'to have a drink on me'. I said I had my young children with me and had been distracted and dropped the purse. She replied by sending me a book and story tape for my children! Was she a JW? NO!!
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Old WT books and booklets etc on DVD (1870-1969)
by tornapart injust found this listing on ebay.
it's got all the old books etc.
that the wts don't want you to see anymore!
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tornapart
Just found this listing on ebay. It's got all the old books etc. that the WTS don't want you to see anymore! Might be interesting to find some crazy stuff.
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Subliminal Messages Dispensed Through Memes and Imagery
by Faithful Witness inthis might sound like an abstract idea, but i would love to hear your thoughts.
there seem to be so many questions that can not be answered in their literature and research materials.
there are things they just "know," even though they are often unable to find where it was published in printed material.. how many of their beliefs are being changed, shifted and spread throughout the congregation, through use of comments alone?
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tornapart
That 'Will this memorial be our last?' was very interesting. When my elder hubby looked at his KM, he said, 'wow.. that's loaded!' When I asked what he was reading, he told me. I was surprised, he usually wouldn't say something like that, it was almost as though the words were out of his mouth before he knew it.
Then my son said how he'd seen lots of other JWs commenting on it and making a great deal out of it. Both of them thought it was ridiculous and inflammatory. I'm just happy they can both see right through it!
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Why is it so hard to deconvert the JDubs?
by alonein321 ini was watching this q & a by peter boghossian (autor of the book a manual for creating atheists) on youtube:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zksbmdcczvu .
around 17:15 min, he explains that there are difficulty levels when it comes to religions in aplying these techniques.
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tornapart
100% agree with DD's post. I'd been wondering why it was so easy for me to 'see the light' when confronted with it and I think it is because I have always been quietly rebellious. Never liked being told what to do and always had an independent streak. Never fully bought into the whole 'faithful slave' idea. Yet still believed it was 'God's organisation'. It took three days of reading 'Crisis in Conscience' to knock that on the head.
I think for any one to wake up when presented with the facts that they have to be a bit of an independent thinker to start with. For those that will listen to me I've asked them to supplant the words 'Governing Body' or 'Faithful Slave' etc with the individual names of the GB members. When you read words about being loyal to the organisation, the FS or the obeying the GB... then put the individual names in, it can be quite eye opening. My son's response to it.. 'Wow!'
Crack that mentality and you may start to get somewhere.