The NIV is my favourite... one of the things I've done is when I come across a passage that seems totally different to the NWT is to look up bible commetaries and concordances (the bible hub is a great online resource). It can make for some great discussions and different ideas.
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Couldn't take it anymore.
by Darkknight757 inso i decided yesterday to give my wife's full disclosure.
not sure it was the best decision considering she holds very firmly to the resurrection hope so we can see our babies again.. anyways she is agreeable to begin a study to find a better truth.
where is a good place to go to get some good reliable biblical info on the web that we can consider together?.
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3 words to describe.....
by punkofnice in..your experience with the watchtower corporation:.
i'll start...... bully boy elders.
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How have you felt since you learned TTATT?
by tornapart init's been 4 years since it happened to me.
an almost overnight experience.
i read ray franz coc in 3 days and that was it.
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Thanks everyone for your experiences, it's great having a board like this, makes you feel less alone in having to deal with the fallout.
Howie.. what beautiful children you have!
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On respect for the belief of others. Sorry for the long post
by StarTrekAngel ini am inclined to start this thread in response to some comments made in other threads.
i have been coming around these forum for quite some time now so whatever you find in here is not just related to something someone may have said this week.
it can go months back as well.. i have seen many who claim to respect the belief of others but when it comes down to applying it into practice, things take a whole different tune.
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I don't know if people's beliefs should be respected. If their beliefs work towards the good of humanity then yes, I can agree. For instance someone is a christian or a humanist and they believe that they can give of themselves to make the life of their fellowman better. But what of Nazis or a member of Klu Klux Klan... can their beliefs be respected? If a person's beliefs can work towards the good of someone else then yes... if it harms someone else then defintely no! -
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How have you felt since you learned TTATT?
by tornapart init's been 4 years since it happened to me.
an almost overnight experience.
i read ray franz coc in 3 days and that was it.
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It's been 4 years since it happened to me. An almost overnight experience. I read Ray Franz CoC in 3 days and that was it. It's taken all this time to come to terms with it. At first I felt that the rug had been pulled from under me. As a born-in it came as a bit of a shock, despite have many doubts about things over the years. How do you live with the fact you've allowed yourself to be duped despite the fact you know you have a certain amount of intelligence? How do you cope with seeing the person you love and live with still being heavily influenced by what you've realised is not 'the Truth' but a falsehood? Do you tell everyone you love what you've learned? What if they put up their barriers and don't want to know? It's been a long slow process for me, infinite patience with my loved ones... but several of them are now seeing through it all, including my children, their spouses and my best friend, her spouse and her children. It'll take more time for my spouse to see through everything but I believe one day it will happen. Just have to be patient!!
What's your story?
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Heroes
by done4good inin jw land having such was verboten.
who are some of yours and why?.
1. nikola tesla - greatest inventor ever, and the only one i know of who was a true scientist as well.. 2. elon musk - there is a reason he chose the great inventor's name for his masterpiece work...also has a serious pair.... 3. jim morrison - brilliant and mad poet.. 4. mike krzyzewski - the epitome of success.. 5. maya angelou - brilliant humanistic poet and writer.. 6. albert einstein - do i actually have to qualify this?.
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My hero has to be Ray Franz.. if it wasn't for him I'd still be trapped in a cult and not realised it...
Oh.. and Simon for giving us this forum
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10 reasons why you should never have a religion
by tornapart ini found this great article.
it's rather long but a good read for anyone interested.
the 10 bullet points are:-.
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Maybe if you had been an atheist from the beginning, God would have hardly have been mentioned. LOL.... I think because we have all been trapped in a fundamentalist religion and maybe still are in a sense (losing our loved ones to it) God becomes the 'lynch pin' of our religious (or lack of) beliefs.
For me, it's not God that's the problem but how humans have imagined him and have controlled other humans with their understanding.
I just feel that whatever beliefs we end up with, whether we still have some form of christianity (on a personal level) or an agnostic, or atheist.. we have all come from the same place... a religion that has controlled us... and we all want to distance ourselves from that control and take back the freedom that should be ours!
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10 reasons why you should never have a religion
by tornapart ini found this great article.
it's rather long but a good read for anyone interested.
the 10 bullet points are:-.
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Millie... I'm no atheist and I liked it! To me, being a christian doesn't mean you have to be a brain dead zombie LOL I'm still open to lots of new ideas.
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10 reasons why you should never have a religion
by tornapart ini found this great article.
it's rather long but a good read for anyone interested.
the 10 bullet points are:-.
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Fink... I like those, so true!
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10 reasons why you should never have a religion
by tornapart ini found this great article.
it's rather long but a good read for anyone interested.
the 10 bullet points are:-.
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Yes, I it does! I must say that when I was first waking up I did find all my feelings a little confusing and the feeling of 'safety' in knowing you have all the answers is gone. The rug has been well and truly pulled out from under you. Now I feel much more freedom in realising I know nothing and this gives me the excitement of learning from scratch so to speak. I feel like a toddler that is just beginning to walk and explore the world. LOL There's so many different ways of looking at things and knowing you don't have to feel constrained into believing anything anymore... just go with the flow. If you feel uncomfortable with a belief, then just dump it and explore new avenues. There's no such thing as 'information control' anymore!